SEED QUESTIONS FOR REFLECTION: What does 'not minding what happens' mean to you? Can you share a personal experience of a time you were able to be in a relationship of inner nonresistance with what was happening? What practice helps you develop an inner alignment with the present moment?
I call bull, it is not prefound, it is misleading. The fact that he did not care what happens does not necessarily mean that that is the way to become enlightened. People confuse the actions of an enlightened or nearly enlightened being with the methodology to become enlightened. Not caring is a by product of enlightenment it is not the path to enlightenment. His statement is true but few will understand what it means so why say it in the first place? People seem to confuse mimicking the behaviors and attitudes of highly evolved people with the ways to become highly evolved, and it doesn't work that way. Acting like a spiritual master does not make you a spiritual master. You do not become enlightened by trying to become enlightened. This is the thing almost all spritual traditions don't understand. This is psuedo spirtituality, in that there is no such thing as spirituality. Spirtuality is just another word for the quest for who we already are, not the beingness of it. Enlightement is not spiritual, it is just our true nature. Sprituality has to do with seeking the highest not being the highest, and that is the way to not find it.
The ego needs to be in control to survive, yet the ego is what blocks us from the realization of our true nature, so if you are looking for enlightement you can be sure it is the ego that is doing the looking. The true self does not desire enlightenment or anything else for it is already all that is or can be. Only the false self seeks it because it does not realize we already are it. So if you are seeking it you are doing so from the false self, and the false self is the thing that is getting in the way of realizing it in the first place. It is a catch 22. Seeking anything spiritual is just another way the ego self runs shotgun to insulate us from the realization of the true self. By seeking it has taken the reins of control yet again, and this illusion of control is used to strengthen itself and cloud our vision. The belief that we are the ego self is what stops us from seeing what we truly are, and the more control ego beleives it has the better it stops us from seeing the truth. Seeking is therefore just another avenue of control that the lower self uses to block the realization of the higher self. Seeking enlightement is egos last stand, the focus has shifted inward and the ego knows its days are numbered so it uses the quest for enlightment to prevent it from taking place. It diverts the focus from just "realizing" to "seeking", thus it delays the process as it was designed to do. Enlightement is simply our true state of being that is realizied when ego dies off enough to let it be seen. It is not found in seeking because it is not about finding anything, it is about removing the layers of illusion (ego) that prevent us realising what has always been right there under our nose.
Yes Krishnamurti did not mind what happens, and yet he may have had an affair with his best friend's wife. Krishnamurti also never had to work a regular job, or had a family or struggled financially. He was taken care of --drove nice cars, wore expensive suits. It is easier to not mind what happens when you are given all the necessities of life and the comforts. Krishnamurti was indeed wise, but let's not forget the circumstances in which he said them. I'm sure many of us have had stretches of time when we did not mind what happened so much...until the bills have to be paid, or our children become sick. Actually wakefulness has preferences, it just doesn't base its existence on them...
This passage is short and simple but there is deeper meaning hidden in it. There is reason to whatever happens in our lives. It is a Karma theory--Theory of Cause & Effect. There are also a number of external factors that are not in our control. This reminds me of my sailing days. While sailing you have to be very alert regarding wind direction, water waves etc. You do not think why wind changed direction or as to why water waves came. You constantly keep looking for them and take corrective action. You simply accept the reality of the moment and act accordingly. We have control over our present and we should act wisely in our present.
For me, "not minding what happens" means that I can learn from every experience. My 12 year old daughter listened in with me during the live AW at the Kindness Temple. After Nipun's story, Emma-Leigh commented on how she was first sad that the man did not get the job, but then she thought aloud, "...but if he had gotten the job, I feel his mom would probably have died." This led her to the beautiful and powerful realization that even when something seemingly negative happens, it can often be for the best.
This is very profound and powerful statement " I don't mind any thing that happens" which literally means being in alignment with what ever happens... When are in alignment with the present moment what ever it might be with out any resistance , fear dissolves and there is profound peace deep inside as you are playing the role of observer. Recently I have been to a spiritual hiking trip on the weekend to Portland ,Oregon. The hiking spot which was choose had some steep heights to climb. Initially when I started the hike, Fear was rising ( Can I hike these steep mountains?, what if I fall off?) Then I decided to stay in the present in alignment with what ever happens and go deeper into the fear if it arises... a wonderful transformation happened as I decided to go deeper into it without resistance, It completely dissolved ! I was able enjoy the hike to its fullest. When I came down some thing in me has dissolved and I was more open to the present moment..[Hide Full Comment]
These moments are flowing into my life from where, I have no clue. Lately I have been observing that something within, takes care of all those conditionings that I am so used to. Inner disturbances that I lived with stay away while I am walking on the meadow of emotionless or feeling less.
It was one of those conflicting moments that I was witnessing....
I was shuffling my commitments while being part of a large group; that disturbed people around me and I was blamed for many things that definitely would have bothered me for months. I was in the bad books of many, who seem to trust me initially, but failed to now. It was very uncomfortable explaining myself to each and everyone who have already framed opinions about me at their will. I was alone-the "common enemy"!
But something inside stopped "reacting" to those people and I found myself guilt-free, agony-free, stress-free!
It was no more important to think about all that was happening around me. Something took charge and I was yet walking with my feet on the ground.
It seemed like I did not mind what was happening around me!
Yes, it sounds simple but it is very profound. It seems easy to understand but difficult to implement and practice. This secret of living mindfully and fully reminds me of short yet profound sutras like Be Here Now, Now Consciousness, Beginner's Mind , Suchness, Isness and may other similar pearls of wisdom. Cultivating mindfulness practice everyday holistically in many contexts of my everyday living has been very helpful to me. Does it mean I do not use my mind for planning, problem solving and processing information? Of course not. It is like everything:clearing up self-created clouds and relating to me and others mindfully and wisely. When I do not live this way I compassionately forgive myself and count the blessings without dwelling on my burdens. This for me an art of living and it is an ongoing amazing journey.
i always appreciate getting wonderful weekly gifts getting and reading reflections and comments. Thank you all and namaste.
Jagdish P Dave
"I don't 'mind what happens" for me is accepting the fact that whatever happens, it can be a source of inspiration, learning and growth. Even when what happens is very sad, unjust or difficult, I try to see what tiny seed life has put on my path that can help me grow and achieve my purpose and try to focus my attention and energy on that.
I am able to look back a lot of incidents and events, which I then saw as negative and detrimental to my being, and now see that it was completely ok. The path from then to now has been fine, with the ups and downs. This realization now helps me deal with current events, the present moment- the people, the events even my state of mind -which I no longer tend to resist as before. I have stopped yearning for things, people and relationships and actually am mystified by the possibilit of NOW. It is a journey and a learning experience. I discover this inner peace, silence in and around me, even in the midst of chaos sometimes.
This is a BIG one! (or THE big one :)
In saying this, essentially to me, J is talking about calling the 'bluff' of the mind (which tends to 'mind' what is happening, which in turn ensures its own significance and survival)
A lot of life, lately has been about dealing with the mind (and its unintended side effects) and being fully present....that to me is the doorway to real insight, authentic gratitude and sponteneous kindness :)
'Not minding what happens' means to simply be with what is presently happening within me and between us without judgment or trying to change anything or trying to get somewhere. It means being aware of what I am seeing, hearing feeling, and probably expressing and sharing it. Over time it's a process of staying with what is presently happening which is constantly changing and evolving. I am a psychotherapist, and as a psychotherapist I have the fortunate 'job' of being in a relationship of inner nonresistance with what is happening as I am with various persons throughout the day. What helped me develop this inner alignment was being with a therapist/mentor who was in inner alignment as he was with me, resulting in my turning on to living in alignment with what is happening and my going on to live in that alignment with others. What helps me develop this is practice. It has also helped me to have a group that provides some kinship, support, protection, guidance, critique. What helps me stay with it is my experience that living in and with this inner alignment is alive and meaningful for me. Abiding in the process of living and relating as it happens, not knowing what will happen next, is exciting and creative. It's living in intimacy. It's fulfilling. I'll probably never retire because I'd be less alive without it.[Hide Full Comment]
Last Thursday night, I realized I was counting on getting the job that I was interviewing for the next day. I stopped expecting it, and wrote all kinds of things I could be doing instead. I went to bed at peace with whatever might happen. I interviewed without wanting or not wanting the job. When I remember to breathe and be grateful for each moment, I experience the luxury of living. Life is, and when I open my eyes and heart to what is, I always see and appreciate more. Gracias a la Vida. l'chaim