अपने आपके व्यवसाय में रहना
इस दुनिया में मुझे केवल तीन प्रकार के व्यवसाय दिखाई देते है| मेरा, आपका और ईश्वर का| मेरे लिए ईश्वर का मतलब वास्तविकता है| वास्तविकता ही ईश्वर है, क्योंकी वही शासन करती है| कुछ भी जो मेरे नियंत्रण से बहार है, आपके नियंत्रण से बहार है और किसी अन्य के नियंत्रण से बहार है - में उसको ईश्वर का व्यवसाय मानती हुँ|
हमें ज्यादातर तनाव मानसिक रूप से अपने व्यवसाय से बहार रहने पर आता है| जब में सोचती हुँ "तुम्हे नौकरी लेनी चाहिए, में तुम्हे खुश देखना चाहती हुँ, तुम्हे समय पर आना चाहिए, तुम्हे अपना बेहतर ख्याल रखना चाहिए" तब में तुम्हारे व्यवसाय में हुँ| जब में भूकंप, बाढ़, युद्ध या तो फिर में कब मरने वाला हुँ, इसके बारे में सोचती हुँ तो में ईश्वर के व्यवसाय में हुँ| जब में मानसिक रूप से तुम्हारे या ईश्वर के व्यवसाय में होती हुँ तो उसका परिणाम जुदाई है|
मेने १९८६ में इस पर ध्यान दिया था| जब में मानसिक रूप से अपनी माँ के व्यवसाय में चली गयी थी, उदाहरण के तोर पर, एक विचार जैसे की "मेरी माँ ने मुझे समझना चाहिए" ये सोचते ही मेने तुरंत अकेलेपन को महसूस किया| मुझे यह अहसास हुआ की मेरी ज़िन्दगी में जब भी मुझे अकेलेपन या चोट का अनुभव होता है तो में किसी और के व्यवसाय में होती हुँ|
अगर आप अपनी ज़िन्दगी जी रहे हो और अगर में मानसिक रूप से आपकी ज़िन्दगी जी रही हुँ तो यहाँ मेरी ज़िन्दगी कौन जी रहा है? हम दोनों वहाँ है| मानसिक रूप से आपके व्यवसाय में होने से में वर्तमान में अपने आप में नहीं रह पाती| में अपने आप से अलग हो जाती हुँ और सोचती हुँ की मेरी ज़िन्दगी क्यों चल नहीं रही| यह सोचना की में सबके लिए अच्छा क्या है यह जानती हुँ - अपने आप के व्यवसाय से दूर रहने के बराबर है| प्रेम के नाम पर भी यह एक अज्ञानता है| क्या में यह जानती हुँ के मेरे लिए सही क्या है? वही मेरा व्यवसाय है| आपके पास आकर आपकी मुश्केलियो को हल करने से पहले मुज़े अपने व्यवसाय पर काम करने दीजिये| अगर आप तीन प्रकार के व्यवसाय को समझकर अपने व्यवसाय में बने रह सकते हो तो आपकी ज़िन्दगी आपने सोचा भी न हो उस तरह से मुक्त हो जाएगी|
अगली बार आप जब तनाव या निराशा का अनुभव करते हो तब अपने आप को पूछिये की आप मानसिक रूप से किसके व्यवसाय में हो और तब शायद आपको ज़ोर से हसी आ जाएगी| वह प्रश्न आपको अपने पास वापस ला सकता है| और आपको यह महसूस हो सकता है की आप कभी भी वर्तमान में नहीं थे, की आप ज्यादातर मानसिक रूप से किसी और के व्यवसाय में ही जी रहे थे| इस पर ध्यान देना की आप किसी और के व्यवसाय में जी रहे है, यह कई बार आपको आपके पास वापस ले आता है| और आप अगर कुछ समय तक इसका अभ्यास करेंगे, तो आपको समज़ में आएगा की आपके पास भी कोई व्यवसाय नहीं है पर आपकी ज़िन्दगी अपने आप ही पूरी तरह से अच्छी चल रही है|
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विचार के लिए कुछ प्रश्न: अपने व्यवसाय में रहने का मतलब आप क्या समज़ते है? क्या आप कोई अपना अनुभव बता सकते है जब आपको यह जानकर की आप अपने व्यवसाय से अलग हो, कोई अंतःज्ञान प्राप्त हुआ हो? मानसिक रूप से किसी और के व्यवसाय में न रहने की जागरूकता को हम कैसे विकसित कर सकते है?
Seed Questions for Reflection
What does staying in your own business mean to you? Can you share an experience of a time when you gained insights from realizing you had strayed from your own business? How do we develop the awareness needed to avoid mentally living someone else's life?
I am trying to understand how you can stay in your own business and still have firm boundaries/expectations.
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Richardalorn
Jan 12, 2025
Hello! I'm Richard, an art professional from the vibrant city of Tirgu Mures in Romania. I've dedicated my career to the art industry, where I have the privilege of working with amazing artisans and helping enthusiasts find pieces that speak to their souls. When I'm not immersed in the world of art, you'll find me on my bike, exploring the natural wonders of Romania. Biking is more than just a hobby for me; it's a passion that keeps me fit and connected to nature.
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- Art: I am deeply passionate about different art mediums, from traditional art to modern installations. I love finding emerging artists and sharing the beauty of art with others.
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Hello! I'm Richard, an art professional from the vibrant city of Tirgu Mures in Romania. I've dedicated my career to the art industry, where I have the privilege of working with amazing artisans and helping enthusiasts find pieces that speak to their souls. When I'm not immersed in the world of art, you'll find me on my bike, exploring the natural wonders of Romania. Biking is more than just a hobby for me; it's a passion that keeps me fit and connected to nature.
Interests:
- Art: I am deeply passionate about different art mediums, from traditional art to modern installations. I love finding emerging artists and sharing the beauty of art with others.
- Cycling: There's nothing quite like the exhilaration of cycling. Whether it's a leisurely ride through the countryside or a challenging mountain trail, I find joy in every experience.
- Nature and Outdoors: Romania's diverse and breathtaking landscapes offer endless opportunities for adventure. I enjoy visiting national parks and simply appreciating the beauty of the natural world.
Why I'm Here:
I joined this community to connect with fellow art lovers and outdoor adventurers. I believe that sharing our passions and experiences creates meaningful connections. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions, want to discuss art, or just want to chat about cycling!
Favorite Quote:
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving." - Einstein
Looking forward to connecting with you all!
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Diane
Dec 1, 2023
Reminds me of the book "the Untethered Soul". I'm trying to separate the "extra" voice in my head.
Thank you
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Jay
Aug 14, 2023
I needed this reminder today. Lately I have been feeling very stressed by the state of the world. It feels like we are on a fast track to destruction. In all of the businesses that are not mine, the world is turning into a sh&* show. When I look into my own business, well perhaps the show begins here, and I just haven't been watching it. I am also way less stressed just trying to manage my own show and keeping it from becoming sh&*. Thank you, Katie, for the reminder today.
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Excellent insight thanks for sharing this. I have had this sort of thinking going on in my head for most of my life until I woke up.
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Apr 26, 2022
Thank you again Katie! I have a husband that I dearly love that has had illnesses these past 5 years. He is 10 years my senior. I have found myself taking over, living his life over there, in his business more and more and finally recognizing the significant, painful loss of my own. The pandemic has not helped matters. I now wear a bracelet each day as a subtle reminder to stay present in my business.
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Brightlyn
Jan 30, 2022
Very relatable on both sides of the coin. I interpret this as not consuming my headspace with what others should be doing with their life. I don’t take it as not caring for and supporting others in respect to THEIR decisions. Worrying and creating expectations on someone else’s life vs being supportive with healthy boundaries are two separate events. The difference is the “you shouldâ€, “you needâ€, “you..†statements vs “what can I do to create a healthy relationship with this person?†and “Are their choices negatively impacting me? Should I create better boundaries to buffer it or let go?†That’s my business. What they do, decisions they make, their emotion and behavior is theirs.
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Sanjay
Nov 21, 2021
Thank you. Very nice, have to put in practice.
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Hannah Burr
May 7, 2021
I love this! I haven't heard it put quite like you have here. I've also heard the radical phrase 'God is my employer' which is a hard sell for most people, but it's so helpful when I have been laid off or had sudden shifts in my financial life - just being able to 'outsource' some of the situation, or realize it was never my business anyway, has been really helpful. You might like the book Contemporary Prayers to Whatever Works. I'm an artist, I wrote it, and it's short, pithy ways of staying out of other people's businesses in color and words, free of any religious affiliation.
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Nasrrudiyn A Hakiym
May 10, 2020
Great stuff
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Cyndy
Mar 30, 2020
owning my own business. owning up to it through awareness that I keep hopping the fence into someone else's yard and trying to peer into their house of mind and life. thank you for this reflection, a short video I just watched brought my attention to this concept and I did a quick search and found this explanation of the concept. a good one. There's no place like home and home is here in my own business and own experience of life
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Allan
Nov 17, 2019
Sounds very good just putting into practice
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Karen
Aug 28, 2019
Brilliant
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Brandon
Jul 2, 2019
Could I have permission to reprint this, with attribution and a link to this page, in an online course I'm producing for dealing with relationships bullies, as it involves staying in your own business and setting boundaries?
Ignore them.
This sounds very unChristian but it is the only thing you have power over.
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satyagrahiAug 4, 2014
Or, be grateful for someone being interested in your life and work. There may be a good reason for them poking in, from shaking up a routine to providing a hand to providing an insight. At the very least you will learn to deal with them calmly, with a smile (something i want/need to learn).
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AmyAug 4, 2014
I am very poor at "ignoring" as I just suggested. However, in attempt to bring me to "my personal center", my husband tries to "coach me up". Some people (me) are very good at adhering to other people's expectations for them (me).
My husband is a professional at discerning if other people are in his business for reasons that should concern him. He is clear what "his role" is. He knows the rules and he abides by them. He knows his gifts and talents and tries his best to multiply them (use them).
If someone is in his business for wrong reason: for curiosities sake, to destroy a reputation, wanting to see how their behavior is affecting you (in sports, defenders are taught to get under an offensive player's skin by getting into their personal space/getting into their face/getting into other people's business), to bully (as in what I see happen at school, daily) . . . you get my drift.
In these instances, my husband teaches me to ignore . . . this, too, shall pass . . . there is justice in God's judgment (one day) for all.
On the flip side, I agree with you in that there is also a GOOD side of the "business coin". If so, we ought not hesitate to take heed.
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david doaneAug 5, 2014
Nidhi -- If someone else is into my business, I think I can stay with my business anyway, with company.
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Love this DD!
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Akshay Sadana NJ (New Jersey)Aug 10, 2014
Nidhi- If you like him it will be a comfortable union, and if you don't like the other person, the thing will be difficult. But you have no choice but to be in your own business. Better like the situation you are in and make the things good for both or you have a choice to leave or be unhappy.
In my case i would like to adopt my self to the situation and be in the business.
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NidhiAug 11, 2014
Hmm... A Partnership Business :)
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LfmAug 11, 2014
In either case, do what you need to do to stay healthy, connected, functionally cared for and loved. Very important in keeping on "keeping on" . . . stay well!
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MetteJan 24, 2021
Ask the person,. Be creative, even funny. They may get it!
When it come to staying in your own business It is a reflection of some one's staying in his own self and in his own sphere where he is not disturbed or dominated by any one els.
We have a nature of being our own master and when we can not be our own master we start getting disturbed.
We jut want to do what we like and fallow the faith or path we like not the criticism of any body els.
it is like having our own independence.
What actually needed is sharing with will giving with our own willingness.
You a brother and sister where as in child hood the younger one/Or the older one likes to posses every thing by himself. He will not like to give/share any thing to the other brother. In that case those brother and sister will always be a fight with each other. The other brother and sister who are sharing what they have, there is no fight at all.
That is the only thing when we want to have every thing by our selves and don't want to share even with our brothers and sister the p... View full comment
When it come to staying in your own business It is a reflection of some one's staying in his own self and in his own sphere where he is not disturbed or dominated by any one els.
We have a nature of being our own master and when we can not be our own master we start getting disturbed.
We jut want to do what we like and fallow the faith or path we like not the criticism of any body els.
it is like having our own independence.
What actually needed is sharing with will giving with our own willingness.
You a brother and sister where as in child hood the younger one/Or the older one likes to posses every thing by himself. He will not like to give/share any thing to the other brother. In that case those brother and sister will always be a fight with each other. The other brother and sister who are sharing what they have, there is no fight at all.
That is the only thing when we want to have every thing by our selves and don't want to share even with our brothers and sister the problem comes and we become disturbed with our own self and all the times irritated.
But if we have the habit of sharing we have no problem the whole world is our house and we do not have any problem any where because the whole word is our business.
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AmyJul 21, 2014
I am so thankful for my Father (in Heaven). He has the world in His Hands (He has Divine Potential to be in everyone's business.)
i am more limited. My cup is full tending to the business of my extended family and friends. I am only human . . . Very much dependent on One Who isn't.
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steven thompson
Jul 7, 2014
ignorance is bliss.
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JoJul 8, 2014
Amen! Simplicity is, too, bliss! My wish . . .
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MaryJo
Jun 18, 2014
Several people have commented that this philosophy is selfish and uncaring to others' problems. For me, however, staying in my own business frees me from judgment and allows me to meet others with more, not less, potential for true relationship. The truly enlightened spiritual gurus practice total detachment and they exude warmth and kindness to everyone. Staying out of others' and God's business releases expectations and creates space for healthy connection and respect for every other human being. When you practice this philosophy, everyone on this planet becomes your business, but "by invitation only" . That makes a huge difference.
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Bill DavisJun 18, 2014
MaryJo, "truly enlightened spiritual gurus" total detachment seems opposite of the relational stance that Jesus showed us: love your neighbor [and enemy] as yourself. This means not intruding but not waiting for a very needy person to invite you into an relationship. Love everyone like they are you. It will mean you are patient; kind; not boastful, nor envious, nor proud, nor rude, nor selfish, nor recording wrongs you see, nor easily angered, never delighting in evil; rejoicing in truth; and always protecting, trusting, hoping, persevering.
SA
satyagrahiJun 18, 2014
Maybe the Dhamma says 'Mind your own business'. The Sangha says: 'Make other people's business your business'. Today we live in quiet isolation and i see unhappy people alone with the TVs and always looking for solace on the mobile. Thru 'intrusion' we can create the opportunities for relationships and become the shoulder others need.
I lived 8 years in a NJ apt without knowing my neighbours, except to pick up package deliveries. In Oakland, my neighbour had a stroke in the shower and then was bedridden for 6 weeks and i found out after they vacated. I resolved to 'intrude' thereafter and made friends with people i would have no other opportunities to connect with.
And now i live in a place where its everyone for themselves - and the commons and public health be dammed, because everyone feels no business other than their own.
It seems that most folks feel that we first work on Buddhan and Dhamman. Sanghan will happen in the future.
SA
Sis AshaJun 18, 2014
I think kindness is different from minding your own business. One should always express kindness.
AL
Always loveJun 19, 2014
Amen Bill!
Getting lost in other people's business is what service is all about. Detachment necessary when I lose myself (unhealthily) serving.
Peace and Love from Asha! I have discussed this before in my spiritual circle. Most got upset. Most felt that it is OK to get into the business of their loved one. It is important to first erase our belief system before one can accept this very important aspect of spiritual thinking to set you free from the feeling of 'HEAVY'.
SA
SANJIVMay 26, 2014
Respected Sis Asha Ji ,
Your comments as you mentioned discussed before in your spritual circle . What you said is really a very very important and sincere learning . But as you know there are every kind of people of ,stress over aspect of only spiritual thinking , very few give their opinion and could be mould either way .
AN
ANANTHARAMANMay 26, 2014
Dear Sister,
The issue here is of ownership. As long as one does anybody's business whether one's own, loved ones' or god's as one's own, one should not feel the heaviness. If one still feels heaviness, then there is some inauthenticity sitting there and one should introspect and get back owning up whatever one is doing, bringing back the same committment. Can we say "DO UNTO THE OTHERS AS YOU WOULD DO UNTO YOURSELF".
SA
Sis AshaMay 27, 2014
No expectation from anyone or anything is key. When you serve you serve altruistically. The word I needs to be erased. The I of ego and arrogance. For most, this is a huge task. This is why a spiritual circle is important. Humility is important. Good Company is very important. Om Shanti!
WI
Wilfred
May 25, 2014
Knowing self is more important. In a day we spend most of our time in thinking about others and speaking about others and we fail to think about ourselves. God is with us at all time. It not right forgetting our own life purpose and talking about others. we should know the real purpose of our life with God's plan for us there by we can fullfeel God's , Our and Others business.
LD
LD
May 24, 2014
To me this means simply, that we cannot control other people's thoughts, actions or words; nor can we make assumptions about the intentions of their thoughts, actions or words. When we make assumptions or judgements about others, and how their words or actions relate to us, we are likely to suffer. The only "control" we have in life is that of our own thoughts, behaviors, etc.
MC
Mark C. WilliamsMay 24, 2014
Yep, Amen.
PE
PeterMay 24, 2014
To some extent this is true but to a large extent it is not. We can influence others, and we can and should make assumptions; it is how we make sense out of the world. We just need to know the limitations of both our assumptions and our ability to influence others.
I feel it is not about staying in your own business. As long as you accept the other's business or even god's business as your own business and deal with the issues without being judgemental, and with full committment, and responsibility, there is no distress or disharmony. It is a matter of owning up and life flows. It is part of growing up to be a leader.
SH
shilpi
May 21, 2014
Does this make you selfish? Arent you doing this sometimes out of love and care and concern?
MC
Mark C. WilliamsMay 21, 2014
By improving myself, I improve everyone else.
TD
TD
May 21, 2014
This philosophy is neat and clean but out of touch with something fundamental about people. We are relational beings. We need other people to regulate our nervous system, to expand and flourish. In my experience, frustration arises when we project what is true for us unto others. Each person is a macrocosm with its own laws. Approach with openness and curiosity, and the encounter can reveal astounding things about them and ourselves (that's where love, respect and personal growth happens). Approach another macrocosm with our rule book and there will be no resonance. Stress, fear, annoyance, loneliness, anger, hopelessness, etc., etc., ensue. My approach is to go into another's world with nothing but a passport and try to see life through their eyes. It had worked. If everyone did this, the world would be so much safer. If everyone were minding their own business I cannot imagine a feeling of connection, love and joy.
BD
Bill DavisMay 25, 2014
Absolutely sound. I would emphasis that our primary relationship is with our Creator, Lord and Master. We were created for relationship with God. From that relationship we are pushed out to others which we learn from God are us too. What is good for them is good for all of us. What is bad from them is bad for all
MI
MikeOct 20, 2025
I think you’re misunderstanding. She’s saying when we are overwhelmed with other people’s problems and mistakes they’re making what good does it do? How do we know what’s best for someone else? And what control do we have over them to drive change? We can still offer advice, support and understanding but we have to learn to surrender and accept the unpleasant outcomes for others actions. Instead we need to focus on what we have control over what can we do to offer support vs being consumed by worry for someone else.
In early recovery I found out that I was an emotional enmesher, I lived others ups and downs, wins and losses, felt their pain and suffering and basically was an exposed nerve with no healthy boundaries. It's good to know your motivating factors and even though you may be trying to help you could still be compromising their integrity. As a healer in recovery, we go into engines that are hot and running, and we are building the plane while it is flying, bringing everyone home with a safe landing is the mark of our craft. Peace, Matt
Why people keen to have others problems and least bother abut their own problems . It gives pleseant and soothing effect to the heart of course if one take initiative to solve others problem , giving backseat to his own problem . But if you are living on others dream ,it is not practical be yourself .
If we only focus on cleaning ourselves and leaving the rest to God, we will have the situation in India where every home is clean and the outside is an incredible mess. We can pollute the Ganga because its God's business to clean it.
There is 'our' business and there is also the overlap in our individual business. Also, there are extroverts who improve by getting feedback from the 'sangha'. Yes, there are yoga practioners who practice and improve on their own. But many find it better to go to a class, get feedback, watch others, make friends, share, comment, ... and improve yoga thru interaction. Often, someone who find it 'their' business to comment on mine, help me grow and learn (even if the feedback is often negative or negatively given). I have found it difficult to work only on myself, by myself.
Service does give me a path, and sangha gives me enormous support and courage.
DD
david doaneMay 21, 2014
As I see it, the challenge is to be of service and be responsive to the other without taking responsibility for the other, to care without carrying, to be involved with the other without losing self. We are relational. I am also individual. The challenge is to be relational in a way that I hold onto my individuality, and to be an individual in a way that allows relationship and involvement. It is a dialectic that is part of life and we always struggle with and never do perfectly.
AV
AVMay 21, 2014
This is true. Thank you
GE
genevièveMay 22, 2014
Thank you for your clarity . there is a resonance for me!
In my case I feel that the soul connection I have with my father is special, God sent him as my father in earth for a reason and the love we have for each other is unconditional, I am not afraid of my dad physical body leaving this world, my faith and my believe doesn't allow me to feel that way, what I been dealing with is the suffering of the physical and emotional pain that his illness is causing him and seeing and feeling him like that, yes I feel him I had share my life with him for so many years everyday, it's almost impossible not to recognize each others pain (or happiness) as a result of this situation I feel exhausted, meaning my energy level is low, but not all is negative I want to share that I been meditating more than ever now and this connection with myself is what keeps me trough.
yes I think balance is the word, aren't we all one energy in different bodies? so my conclusion after reading... View full comment
In my case I feel that the soul connection I have with my father is special, God sent him as my father in earth for a reason and the love we have for each other is unconditional, I am not afraid of my dad physical body leaving this world, my faith and my believe doesn't allow me to feel that way, what I been dealing with is the suffering of the physical and emotional pain that his illness is causing him and seeing and feeling him like that, yes I feel him I had share my life with him for so many years everyday, it's almost impossible not to recognize each others pain (or happiness) as a result of this situation I feel exhausted, meaning my energy level is low, but not all is negative I want to share that I been meditating more than ever now and this connection with myself is what keeps me trough.
yes I think balance is the word, aren't we all one energy in different bodies? so my conclusion after reading many comments is that after all we do learn from other people's business even if it seems negative, it makes us realize things but also when we are in other's business we need to be ready for it and re-energize ourselves that takes more work and discipline, we supposed to be here for each other as well as for ourselves. ONE LOVE!
What would the Buddha say? The four noble truths, the eight fold path, the 5 or 8 precepts, all of these are for a single person to understand and practice. You can't self-clean by involving yourself in others. Many of the reflections here from others just get me more confused. It's rather simple, though like AA, it's hard to practice: stay in your business. Yes, it's simple and what? Do you really know more than the Buddha or Jesus? Do you have a better way?
SY
SydMay 20, 2014
These are good questions and points Mark. My response is non-attachment. Also the heart of Jesus and Buddha’s teaching is non-attachment. It is just this simple and it allows one to fall into the true self where there is no need to accomplish anything.
SA
satyagrahiMay 20, 2014
Buddha has 3 gems: buddha, dhamma, and sangha. Sangha is ignored nowadays or not considered as important as the other 2. Gandhi and others have indicated that service is a path, so it is possible to 'self-clean by involving yourself in others.'
Balance. I'm sorry Byron. Though I think I understand the point quite well, and though it may work for you (though I'm not sure why you would be here concerning yourself with the business of others if you totally believe what you say) and I do see some truth in what you say, I think balance is the key. We don't live alone nor just for ourselves, though many self-help gurus would encourages us otherwise. Should a mother not be concerned about her daughter's abusive boyfriend? Should she not say something? Should Annie not sacrifice to care for her Dad who has cancer? Certainly there is value in being able to recognize the difference in whose business you're stressing over, but it is indeed simplistic to think we should just be in our own.
I believe this is such complicated and essential territory. I have found that when I focus on others to avoid focusing on my own concerns, the avoidance in that doesn't do anyone any good. And yet, when I am in a more centered place, open to my own inner world, focusing with others on their concerns seems to do both of us a lot of good. Neurobiologically speaking, we can't not have some inner awareness of and attention on what is happening for others because we have complex circuitry that is dedicated to that kind of co-resonance. Maybe even more importantly, we are above all attaching beings, continually seeking the warmest connections with others we can imagine. Our very nervous systems are always requesting connection, looking for safe others with whom to share our world. And we define that safety as nonjudgmental, agenda-less presence. In those moments, we move deeply into one another's worlds, not to fix or adjust or make assumptions about what should happen next, but to be... View full comment
I believe this is such complicated and essential territory. I have found that when I focus on others to avoid focusing on my own concerns, the avoidance in that doesn't do anyone any good. And yet, when I am in a more centered place, open to my own inner world, focusing with others on their concerns seems to do both of us a lot of good. Neurobiologically speaking, we can't not have some inner awareness of and attention on what is happening for others because we have complex circuitry that is dedicated to that kind of co-resonance. Maybe even more importantly, we are above all attaching beings, continually seeking the warmest connections with others we can imagine. Our very nervous systems are always requesting connection, looking for safe others with whom to share our world. And we define that safety as nonjudgmental, agenda-less presence. In those moments, we move deeply into one another's worlds, not to fix or adjust or make assumptions about what should happen next, but to be present for the unfolding of the wisdom in our bodies and minds. Without this kind of ongoing support, we don't do very well at any stage of life. With this support, we have the potential to become more deeply individual by being more deeply connected. Then when life brings the inevitable suffering and challenges, we have rich resources of back-up as things sort themselves out. It really does make all the difference.
Thanks, Bonnie, for expressing this so beautifully and opening the basics to more subtle realities.
MA
MariettaDec 16, 2020
Hi Bonnie thank you for this great reflection. It clarifies the misunderstanding that minding your business equals not caring for others . I agree with you ; when I am able to take care of my needs, let go of expectations I am better able to be present and loving towards others
MS
Monkeymind Salin
May 20, 2014
Everything would be fine if all of you would only accept God and do what I say.
When I am aligned and feel myself as being part of the Whole,life is beautiful. No expectation, no worries, no fear... As soon as I build a fence between myself and the others or in contrary if I project myself in the others, everything get wrong...Trying to be in consciousness...
MM
MK Mueller
May 20, 2014
I wrote a process for my own recovery from codependence 25 years ago, and this teaching from Katie was pivotal to the process. The 3rd "High-Way" of 8 to Great is Full Responsibility. Now we have over 2000 trainers teaching this powerful concept that "I'm in charge of my life, I'm not in charge of yours" in schools and businesses around the world. Thank you Katie for changing our lives with your simple wisdom!
This is an overly simplistic view (even somewhat condescending but that's another story). The world and our areas of concern/influence (or "business") cannot be isolated into separate rooms of "yours," "mine," and "God's." We are all interdependent, therefore, there is also the category of "our" business. There is the possibility of either healthy or unhealthy stress and discomfort involved with working out "business," no matter who's business it is.
Who would we be if we have no concern for others of the nature described above? Of course I am concerned for your happiness, for your health, and about whether you have a job. I have a responsibility to myself AND to those around me. Avoiding "our" stress would be a lonely life indeed. And very self-absorbed. For me, "our" stress can be understood and managed in a healthy way. And I will celebrate with you when you get a job! Or lose weight. Or survive cancer. I cannot tell myself "that is your problem" when it stresse... View full comment
This is an overly simplistic view (even somewhat condescending but that's another story). The world and our areas of concern/influence (or "business") cannot be isolated into separate rooms of "yours," "mine," and "God's." We are all interdependent, therefore, there is also the category of "our" business. There is the possibility of either healthy or unhealthy stress and discomfort involved with working out "business," no matter who's business it is.
Who would we be if we have no concern for others of the nature described above? Of course I am concerned for your happiness, for your health, and about whether you have a job. I have a responsibility to myself AND to those around me. Avoiding "our" stress would be a lonely life indeed. And very self-absorbed. For me, "our" stress can be understood and managed in a healthy way. And I will celebrate with you when you get a job! Or lose weight. Or survive cancer. I cannot tell myself "that is your problem" when it stresses me, and then happily climb onboard with you when the coast is clear. But I can be healthy in my boundaries and in my acceptance/rejection of responsibility.
To feel connected with others is a fundamental need, and both a great joy and stress. That is life. I prefer to live according to the Serenity Prayer than to burst out laughing at the absurdity of my concern for others "business."
I was married to a man for 30 years and we were always in each others business instead of our own. I was so dependent that I needed to know what he was thinking, if he loved me, was he seeing someone else, was I thin enough for him, etc. He, on the other hand, was in the business of improving me - I should be thinner, I should do this to the kids, I should know what he wants, I should be there for him, etc. I woke up one day to this relationship that had no selves and had to leave. Each day I work on myself in order to be able to give and see and care the right way about the reality and others.
DD
david doaneMay 20, 2014
Abby -- Congratulations, and thank you for what you shared. I thought of a favorite quote of mine in reading your message. Martin Buber said pretty close to the following: "If I am I because you are you and you are you because I am I, then I am not I and you are not you. But if I am I because I am I, and you are you because you are you, then I really am I and you really are you, and we can meet." My sometimes effort is to keep growing in that.
there is relative business and ultimate business, just as there is relative truth and ultimate truth. Focusing on 'my business' allows me to bring more to 'your business' if required and appropriate, knowing and familiir with what is ultimately true in 'my business', which comes down to two basic things, there is this life here now, and the I knows absolutely nothing. This means we can flow between the two poles on the continuum which says 'we are in this world but not of it' with love
I left my own business and has caused me problems at home financially and emotionally, I have been giving it all to my my dad's business, I wish I could leave my dad's business but I can't , I been living his illness since we found out he had terminal cancer, I am his only daughter. someone has to take care of him in everyway, I am not 100% in my own business and I feel exhausted. it's a hard one. how do I cope with this?
DD
david doaneMay 20, 2014
Annie -- Yes, you have a very difficult situation and because of your goodness and love you are giving so much to your dad and his business. I very much commend you. I think what would help me cope with such a situation would be for me to realize that I could leave dad's business and because of my care and devotion I am choosing to stay; and for me to realize that I don't have to take care of him in everyway but because of my care and devotion I am choosing to take care of him. I think that in realizing that it is my choice I would retain my freedom and not feel victimized, I would be more in my business, I would cope better with the situation, and would not feel so exhausted. I hope all goes well.
SY
SydMay 20, 2014
Annie,
What I write in my first paragraph, Annie, is my attempt to validate your feelings. And please understand I do not have clue what you are feeling, as it is only my attempt to give you a touch of fresh air to what you may be feeling. My last paragraph is a suggestion to your question “how do I cope with this?”
This taking care of your Dad appears painful, Annie. I sense you may feel fatigued, apathetic, alienated maybe from yourself and others. It feels like you cannot allow yourself to feel meaningful moments with your Father. This may result in the sudden blockage of feelings, as if life had suddenly been drained from you. Hope may feel like it has suddenly vanished. The best I can say, in my trying to be sensitive and considerate to what you may feel, is I am so sorry for what may feel like you are standing all alone.
In response to your question I want to suggest you approach your Father’s care with non-attachment. I realize non-attachment sounds like being uncaring for your Father. It may seem like being insensitive and you may feel it is being as hard as nails. Yet non-attachment contains no hint of rejection or hardness, rather it offers a radical acceptance of life as it is. It is the quality where it allows you to be present and the ability to abide in your deeper self. This non-attachment does not cling to anything inner or outer. It offers this freedom to not need to cling to the endless activity of your mind and cling to this deep grief of losing your Dad. Non-attachment allows the unfolding to happen and I believe you will feel contained within your true self that can endure this pain and hardship. Non-attachment offers a radical acceptance because it can live within painful truth.
Everything touches and transforms us all and yet your level of transformation is beyond words. Non-attachment is just this place where you do not base yourself on your thoughts, not on your feelings and not on your perceptions. It is a place where everything arises and disappears into profound stillness and peace. It offers a heart felt peace. I also believe it the greatest gift you can give to your Father and to yourself, non-attachment that allows you to fall into your deeper self and peace is offered with a profound compassion.
Peace Annie and your presence is deeply significant !!!
Syd
CA
CarlynMay 20, 2014
Well done so eloquently sharing this advice and compassion Syd, and every blessing to you, Annie and her Dad, and my own.
AN
AnneMay 20, 2014
Thank you Syd and Carlyn for your supporting kind words and to the network that allow us to help each other trough this site. Blessings to the special connections we have with our parents and with ourselves.
MU
mugdha
May 19, 2014
How simple it appears now to me the key of happiness when in reality I don't think it is clear enough. Keeping my own business then would mean to me to be free of all the worldly associations one has, otherwise, somehow or the other, other's businesses will certainly cross paths with mine or vice-versa.
I am hearing the author perfectly. In trying to understand and support a friend, I have left my own business. My personal anchor (with each person I aid) becomes less rooted in the sand.
I am always late! The only thing I hope not to be "late" for would be Jesus' call. (This I pray.) I have so many "irons in the fire". Too many dependent elders. Children needing hope, love, support, encouragement and someone to say, "I believe in YOU"!
Please pardon my tardiness. (I would rather be late and present than not present at all).
Too, let me say, JC loves you and so do I.
PS. For complete understanding, I go to God. He KNOWS you like no other.
The article is simple, basic, and true. AA calls it taking your own inventory rather than taking anyone else's. To me it means to focus on myself, on what it is that I want, feel, like, don't like, etc, and on what I need to improve. I stray from my own business every time I think and talk about what you need or what you're doing rather than think and talk about what I am experiencing. One way I develop the awareness to avoid mentally living someone else's life is by getting told directly or implicitly to mind my own business and getting rejected, which has helped me learn to stay in my own head and business rather than in someone else's head and business. I've learned that I'm a stranger in anyone else's business, and an intruder except when explicitly invited, and the invitation is usually for a specific issue and a short period of time, and it's important to not overstay the welcome. I want to be respectful of someone else's business and bo... View full comment
The article is simple, basic, and true. AA calls it taking your own inventory rather than taking anyone else's. To me it means to focus on myself, on what it is that I want, feel, like, don't like, etc, and on what I need to improve. I stray from my own business every time I think and talk about what you need or what you're doing rather than think and talk about what I am experiencing. One way I develop the awareness to avoid mentally living someone else's life is by getting told directly or implicitly to mind my own business and getting rejected, which has helped me learn to stay in my own head and business rather than in someone else's head and business. I've learned that I'm a stranger in anyone else's business, and an intruder except when explicitly invited, and the invitation is usually for a specific issue and a short period of time, and it's important to not overstay the welcome. I want to be respectful of someone else's business and boundaries. I've learned that staying in my own business helps the other be more open in sharing their business, and we can meet.
In my experience, the three businesses merge and trickle into each other.
My business is often influenced, at a subtle level, by the business of others (i.e. their expectations of me, which part of myself I want to show to them, how I want to be perceived, what they think I must be doing etc)
This is seriously tricky, because then it is your business disguised as mine in some strange way. It is not truly mine.
As I was reflecting today morning, I discovered that truly my business (to use the language of this piece) was nothing exciting at all. It was just small things, normal things.
And so much of my ambition, my desire to do things, to change the world, to influence, to experience were all driven by the other two businesses trickling into mine (and then seeming to be mine).
Truly staying in my own business also means coming to terms with what that business truly is - and it may not be what you thought it is supposed to be, or what it was meant to be. It may just be some ... View full comment
In my experience, the three businesses merge and trickle into each other.
My business is often influenced, at a subtle level, by the business of others (i.e. their expectations of me, which part of myself I want to show to them, how I want to be perceived, what they think I must be doing etc)
This is seriously tricky, because then it is your business disguised as mine in some strange way. It is not truly mine.
As I was reflecting today morning, I discovered that truly my business (to use the language of this piece) was nothing exciting at all. It was just small things, normal things.
And so much of my ambition, my desire to do things, to change the world, to influence, to experience were all driven by the other two businesses trickling into mine (and then seeming to be mine).
Truly staying in my own business also means coming to terms with what that business truly is - and it may not be what you thought it is supposed to be, or what it was meant to be. It may just be some very very simple and small stuff.
This reminds me of the classic 'circle of influence' and 'circle of concern' which is always a superset of the first. Our greatest power is always in our circle of influence, but we often discount the tremendous ripple power of authentically inhabiting that limiting circle. As the Servicespace ecosystem often says, "Change yourself, change the world."
KP
Kristin PedemontiMay 16, 2014
Agreed! Change yourself, change the world. so deeply True!
Good advice. When we stay focused on Self (and not in a selfish way) we can become more aware of how our own attitude & actions impact others. We can be mindful of how we interact. this makes all the difference. As no one can read our minds, we cannot read anyone else's either. Staying in our own business helps prevent a lot of heartache and misunderstanding. For example, we might think that someone is not making time for us because they don't care when in reality they just may simply be overwhelmed with care taking responsibilities in their own lives. If all of us took care of our own business rather than getting into someone else's the world would be a more calm place & probably a lot more productive too :). I think the awareness comes from asking the questions in the moment just as you've suggested. Who's life am I living and focused on right now? Also, when we try to live another's life we are taking away their potential power and empowerment. Best wishes every... View full comment
Good advice. When we stay focused on Self (and not in a selfish way) we can become more aware of how our own attitude & actions impact others. We can be mindful of how we interact. this makes all the difference. As no one can read our minds, we cannot read anyone else's either. Staying in our own business helps prevent a lot of heartache and misunderstanding. For example, we might think that someone is not making time for us because they don't care when in reality they just may simply be overwhelmed with care taking responsibilities in their own lives. If all of us took care of our own business rather than getting into someone else's the world would be a more calm place & probably a lot more productive too :). I think the awareness comes from asking the questions in the moment just as you've suggested. Who's life am I living and focused on right now? Also, when we try to live another's life we are taking away their potential power and empowerment. Best wishes everyone for living YOUR life. :) HUG