In my years of working with groups and organizations, I have identified four basic types of listening.
“Ya, I know that already.” The first type of listening is downloading: listening by reconfirming habitual judgments. When you are in a situation where everything that happens confirms what you already know, then you are listening by downloading.
“Ooh, look at that!” The second type of listening is object-focused listening: listening by paying attention to factual and to the novel or disconfirming data. In this type of listening you pay attention to what differs from what you already know. You attend to ideas about reality that differ from your own rather than denying them (as you do in the case of downloading). Object-focused or factual listening is the basic mode of good science. You ask questions and you carefully observe the responses that nature (data) gives to you.
“Oh, yes, I know how you feel.” The third and deeper level of listening is empathic listening. When we are engaged in real dialogue, we can, when paying attention, become aware of a profound shift in the place from which our listening originates. As long as we operate from the first two types of listening, our listening originates from within the boundaries of our own mental-cognitive organization. But when we listen empathically, our perception shifts from our own organization into the field, to the other, to the place from which the other person is speaking. When moving into that mode of listening we have to activate our empathy by connecting directly, heart to heart, to the other person. If that happens, we feel a profound switch; we forget about our own agenda and begin to see how the world unfolds through someone else’s eyes. When operating in this mode, we usually feel what another person wants to say before the words take form. And then we may recognize whether a person chooses the right word or the wrong one to express something. That judgment is only possible when we have a direct sense of what someone wants to say before we analyze what she actually says. Empathic listening is a skill that can be cultivated and developed, just like any other skill in human relations. It’s a skill that requires us to activate a different source of intelligence-the intelligence of the heart.
“I can’t express what I experience in words. My whole being has slowed down. I feel more quiet, present and more my real self. I am connected to something larger than myself.” This is the fourth level of listening. It moves beyond the current field and connects to a still deeper realm of emergence. I call this level of listening generative listening, or listening from the emerging field of the future. This level of listening requires us to access our open heart and open will — our capacity to connect to the highest future possibility that wants to emerge. On this level our work focuses on getting our (old) self out of the way in order to open a space, a clearing that allows for a different sense of presence to manifest. We no longer look for something outside. We no longer empathize with someone in front of us. We are in an altered state — maybe communion or grace is the word that comes closest to the texture of this experience that refuses to be dragged onto the surface of words.
You’ll notice that this fourth level of listening differs in texture and outcomes from the others. You know that you have been operating on the fourth level when you realize that, at the end of the conversation, you are no longer the same person you were when you started the conversation. You have gone through a subtle but profound change. You have connected to a deeper source — to the source of who you really are and to a sense of why you are here — a connection that links you with a profound field of coming-into-being, with your emerging authentic Self.
Otto Scharmer is a professor at MIT, founder of Presencing Institute, and a pioneer of GAIA University. The excerpt above is from his ground-breaking book, Theory U: Learning from the Future as it Emerges.
Seed Questions for Reflection
How do you relate to the four levels of listening? Can you share a personal story of a time you were able to activate generative listening? What helps you consciously choose your level of listening?
I spend so much time either downloading listening, or object-focused listening. In my work as a spiritual director, I practice empathic listening. I’m usually working hard to hold on to my questions relating to what the other person is saying.
I find empathic listening becoming more and more a part of my personal life.
Now the fourth type is a desire, and a fear of letting go that much, and also, so attractive, I hope for it.
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nancy
Oct 13, 2025
The fourth type of listening is learning about the experience of another in which ( yourself have no knowledge of this type of experience. Maybe this is the hardest trying to understand what we have personally have not.
I feel my listening is majorly empathetic as I try to be authentic to the listener.
And.... I think when we surrender ourselves completely to the source, we tend to get into a state of communion where the will dissolves completely...
Very well explained. The generative listening is operational as long as I’m in active awareness. Then it often takes over my speaking and my actions. So much so that my mind also does not know where I’m going.
This has come to me after over clearing my body of stored trauma. One day suddenly it took over me.
Being in awareness is what keeps me in generative listening.
I think these four levels are one good way to capture types of listening and also not the only way. He chooses a one-to-one human conversation to analyze. Sometimes we are conversing in the context of a larger gathering - and we are listening to the current speaker, we are listening to our own internal reactions and we may also be listening to the energies of the entire room/gathering. For me, this fourth level of listening to/with emergence is when we are attuned to the larger field and that may be outside with or without humans.
During the Spring meetings of the Global Ecovillage Network in Switzerland I always come into the realm of the fourth level of listening. Indeed GEN meetings are for me an island of spiritual recovery. Sacred Story Telling really...like what Leah Lamb teaches too. Unfortunately in my current day to day living situation, my husband is stuck in the paradigm of downloading and object focused listening. Attempts to influence anything more, result in aversion. Bridging the difference between his needs and mine are deeply challenging. I tend to defend myself by using the last promise of the 4 promises of ZEN as a mantra: The Path of Experience is Unsurpassed.
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Kajal Rani Sharma
Mar 4, 2025
After reading this article i'm able to reflect on how i just focus on level 1 and 2 . Their are only some moments where i could practice the 3rd one . From now, during every dialogue i'll look upon the way i will practice all 4 ways.
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Johnny
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I have been there… mostly 1 and 2 for a long time….
The 3rd level of empathetic listening is harder than it seems. Even if you feel sometimes we often get into 2nd level due to the surface or words or tone of our interactions. It’s a skill to learn.
The 4th level of listening I have usually found in spiritual talks… to be able to flow the conversations on 3rd and 4th level definitely requires a lot of mastery
"Listening is so close to Love, that most people cannot tell them apart." David Augsburger.
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Priya
Feb 18, 2024
Interesting facts - i never thought of this or realized this until now and now that i read this i can associate some conversations in first three categories but difficult to find the fourth category - will be more observant now of which category this falls under …
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Ranjit
Feb 16, 2024
At this moment I can say that It is difficult to choose the level of listening. Usually I have found that, I work on first level most of the time, then the second and then the third. From reading this I must say that Listening should not happen automatically it should be my choice.
I think that listening is like music for me; I don't have a particular taste or a particular band that I go crazy about; it's all about my mood and what vibe I am in. Somedays I am just focusing on the music and the words are a blur to me(1st type). Some days its all about the meaning behind the words (2nd type). Somedays everything feels relatable (3rd type); and in very few occasions, somedays music just opens up my soul, leaving a huge impact on my life.
That is how I feel with conversations.; the energy; the relationship; personal mental state - all of these contribute towards the kind of listening i will be experiencing.
I attended a 4 day silence retreat once. In between the mountains, i would wake up with the sunrise every single day; witness the sunset, not have any external noise. Just me and my thoughts. It took me some time to settle in with this feeling, but once it did and once the chatter inside my head was quiet; I was able to open up the space for generative listen... View full comment
I think that listening is like music for me; I don't have a particular taste or a particular band that I go crazy about; it's all about my mood and what vibe I am in. Somedays I am just focusing on the music and the words are a blur to me(1st type). Some days its all about the meaning behind the words (2nd type). Somedays everything feels relatable (3rd type); and in very few occasions, somedays music just opens up my soul, leaving a huge impact on my life.
That is how I feel with conversations.; the energy; the relationship; personal mental state - all of these contribute towards the kind of listening i will be experiencing.
I attended a 4 day silence retreat once. In between the mountains, i would wake up with the sunrise every single day; witness the sunset, not have any external noise. Just me and my thoughts. It took me some time to settle in with this feeling, but once it did and once the chatter inside my head was quiet; I was able to open up the space for generative listening of our meditation teachers and experience the strong power of the words, and the meaning they carry.
I am yet to practice the art of consciously choosing my level of listening. Till now i think its been my preconceived notions and biases towards people that decides how I walk into a conversations. Hoping to change it slowly. Hide full comment
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Gauri
Feb 12, 2024
I feel it is necessary to use all 4 above-listed ways of listening in our day-to-day lives. Depending on who we are talking to and the purpose, my ways of listening change.
Every time, I listen to a beautiful and melodious song(bhajan) or a spiritual talk of my choice, I feel transported to a different space that cannot be described in words. I feel very peaceful and connected to something beyond explanation.
What helps me find myself in a state of generative listening is when I am looking for "what can I learn from this "listening" to make myself a better person".
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Jac
Feb 12, 2024
If I am truly present, then every moment is fresh. The part of my brain that audits for patterns and confirmation bias is not engaged or influencing communication. I like the word freshness; it describes the visceral feeling of being in the present moment. There is Presence in the present moment. This, for me, is the connection to the 'still deeper level of emergence'.
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Paula ann Hagar
Feb 12, 2024
I am 76 years old - one of the greatest gifts I gave myself for still being alive and kicking was "I just don't have to listen to crap anymore! I can swim away fast as my creaky fins will take me. I vote for 0th level of listening. No Crap listening. and yes I strongly felt connected to the Universal flow.
As far as generative listening, it is what I strive for. I feel conversation with the intent of communication and exchange is a skill developed over a lifetime.
As I am on the journey of coming into being, knowing my authentic Self, I can see myself communicating at all the 4 levels. The 1st level of listening, confirms what my authentic Self already knows, the knowledge of who I am that lies buried under the conditioning and the belief systems that I have to create my outer world, which would be the 2nd level of moving the moss out of the way, which leads to a better thinking and understanding that lies beneath the conditioning. This involves an awareness of the falsity of those beliefs and undoing them, which is usually the ego thought system.
This awareness, leads to the 3rd type of listening, which is being Present and experiencing the moment wihout being caught up in a linear time line of past and future.
The 4th type of listening is a natural consequence of going through the 1st 3 types of listening. I can then operate from a total alignment of Spirit and Divinity within me and there is a profound change and peace is experienced. It i... View full comment
As I am on the journey of coming into being, knowing my authentic Self, I can see myself communicating at all the 4 levels. The 1st level of listening, confirms what my authentic Self already knows, the knowledge of who I am that lies buried under the conditioning and the belief systems that I have to create my outer world, which would be the 2nd level of moving the moss out of the way, which leads to a better thinking and understanding that lies beneath the conditioning. This involves an awareness of the falsity of those beliefs and undoing them, which is usually the ego thought system.
This awareness, leads to the 3rd type of listening, which is being Present and experiencing the moment wihout being caught up in a linear time line of past and future.
The 4th type of listening is a natural consequence of going through the 1st 3 types of listening. I can then operate from a total alignment of Spirit and Divinity within me and there is a profound change and peace is experienced. It is a profound experience and at the end there is a knowing that it was the Self.
There is a constant 4 types of listening that I have found that goes on cyclically as I grow myself to unfold into the Emerging Self. Hide full comment
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Sylvia_Malkah
Feb 12, 2024
THANK YOU for showing me that I have a choice!
While "Modelling" I try the emphatic whenever I can, moving into Mothering.
I heard of Otto´s Theory U in the past and even thou "I knew" it was true I just couldn´t get it.
Now I am so glad that I get a 2d chance. I a,m confortable with Higher Self,just need to Contemplate it more.
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Dr.Harshita. Sharma
Feb 12, 2024
Yes , I'm often at the level 2 and 3 of listening.Trying to deepen the inner journey ...Empathetic listening is work in progress and has witness wonderful shifts around me. I noticed recently that whenever I think of something and manifest it very easily.
I am able to do empathic listening often with my students and colleagues. Suddenly there is heart to heart connection and I feel there is something this person wants to share. This has given me beautiful relationships with above people. I don't know but I feel I have experienced generative listening when doing self talk because it takes me at time to a different world where I feel connected with higher being. Constantly reminding myself ,I am a good listener and introspecting every conversation I have with others help me stay focused. I tend to sometimes forget it but I apologise to myself and I am back again. Listening is not that easy but with practice it can become an habit.
I like to imagine that I am Soil , like earth, in my generative listening practice. The task is to turn the soil as if we were wanting and asking the earth, the soil to open to the nutrients that are available when we turn it over, listening from a place that is inviting to space to welcome oxygen and more nutrients in.
I have been in Ottos class and this was one of my first lessons in listening. Though I struggle sometimes, I am mostly at the empathic level and in moments of deep resonance and care, I access my generative ability and it's a wonder!! I also use downloading and factual listening to breeze through my routine tasks but they are the styles of my 'doing', the robotic and ego me which needs to be saved, not the ' being', the true me that's connected to all being and is woven , embedded in to the universe
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jacqueline dolan
Feb 12, 2024
I can identify with these levels and am deeply grateful that I have learned to listen empathically to all those around me.
I have had a few experiences of generative listening, one when recently I spent several days with close family members and they opened up to me about how they wanted to become more present and connected to source. This experience allowed me to grow in understanding and compassion of how to better listen also to self which was humbling , although I did find it to be exhausting.
When listening I focus on grounding through the breath and then connecting to my heart centre.
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Rupali
Feb 12, 2024
I have participated in tehe first three forms of listening however I can’t recall if and when I have been able to generate participatory listening. Being in a safe space with people where I can talk with judgment would probably help me to choose the level of listening.
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Angita V
Feb 11, 2024
I am often at level 2 or 3 and am currently searching to be at level four again. It keeps fluctuating as I am at my lowest right now. I am yet to be able to create that space for me to even sit in the silence of the mind to connect to the higher realm.
The story reminded me that I connected with my guru sometime back and kept asking for truth to be revealed in my marriage and work. What emerged out of that truth has bee beautiful in terms of work as during the same time I attended my first-ever talk on any subject. Nipun had conducted a talk on Heart intelligence in times of AI. As I was searching for an answer to reflect on the work that we do Nipun's revelations came at the right time.
I am hopeful to be able to accept the truth of my personal life, too. As that was the most comforting factor in my life so may be it the toughest to accept.
I think i experienced generative listening because of my environment, but I cannot remember. Or I may not have experienced it yet. I have to be conscious of 2nd me watching myself from above when I consciously choose my level of listening. It often says take a deep breath before start saying something and think while taking a deep breath. So maybe that, too.
This speaks to me, simple and profound and very memorable. The fourth level explains it to me better than I've heard before, reaches me. It's so hard to describe the undescribable.
It takes intention for this type of listening in the world. I am grateful for this reminder that if I truly listen I can connect to Truth.
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Lisa
Jun 28, 2023
I try to at least be at level 3 when listening to the people I'm speaking with.
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Bettina Ludwig
Mar 12, 2023
I learned the fourth type of listening at the Ghandi 3.0 retreat. I've experienced this form of listening before, but I never thought "it is a thing". I am beyond grateful for this experience.
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YashioJul 15, 2023
Thank you, Bettina. I want to join Gandhi 3.0 retreat one day to experience generative listening. Until then.
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Linh
Mar 11, 2023
I am often in the mood of level two listening, level 3 at sometimes. I often keep my mind open to listen new things and not let the judgement voices control over curiosity. I had several experiences of level 4 listening, when I changed my mind to something different than it was before the talk. I was really immersed in that kind of talk. This was a talk with one of my friends, who recently I don't meet her for a long time.
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Patti
Mar 9, 2023
As a celebrant I often listen with empathy as I meet with families to learn about the person who died and how to reflect them best in their funeral. I have perhaps experienced generative listening in listening to a podcast interview of Brian Swimme. I evolved during the course of it. Also a time when someone I loved bared his soul to me - truly communion happened.
I think I am more in the 3rd or 4th type of listening. Although depending on the situation and with whom I’m communicating I could fall into the 1st or 2nd. When I’m with my patients I do fall into empathic listening but also the 4th stage. When I am in a study circle group and we are sharing I also tend to fall into the 4th type of listening.
I've been remembering more of my dreams over the past month or so. It feels like the generative listening stance is a bit like when a dream insight pushes through to consciousness, enough to leave a fragment for the articulating voice of memory, and one has a message from some depths that are not unconscious nor subconscious but more like a kind of meta consciousness, where I've been in contact with Source.
Very much appreciate these four levels! I believe that generative listening happens with me when I am writing in my journal. I feel moved to an altered state consciousness. I may ask a question, general or specific. I listen. Always a response emerges. I don't judge it but write it down. I am connected to something larger than myself. I feel loved and accompanied. I would like to engage in generative listening with others but find occasions to do this are rare.
The first story inspires us to challenge ourselves to come out of the rut of our habitual mechanical robotic 'reactions' rather than the 'appropriate response'.
The second one exhorts us to aspire for the mystical / religoious experience that might have transformed Gautam Siddharth into the Buddha.
The extract on listening teaches us the art of living rightly as life is all about interacting and relating with our fellow humans on a daily basis.
When I am meditating, or engaged in a body centered activity I am in a very slow mental & emotional space. Not doing, just being. What happens typically is like tentacles drop and extend into space all around, opening it all up; it’s really very delightful. When I am working with groups or facilitating, or even in a one on one, I tried to stay in and with this quality of attention, and to keep this co-creative energy exchange quite clear and present. It is often amusing & fun. 🌞
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Shelley
Feb 2, 2023
In reflecting back on my life as an educator and parent, I can say I have observed myself become a better listener. I have always struggled with timing in a conversation, and end up interrupting. Not my intention, but wanting to connect and contribute to the conversation, I would mess it up and come off as interrupting. I have learned to step aside and just listen from the heart to generate presence of in the moment and be receptive to the emotions and experience that is generated from the listening. I would call "generative listening" heart listening. When we listen with pure intention to receive from the heart, the experience is transformative. The saying, 'Listen to your heart' has wisdom in it. Not from an empathy or relational perspective, but from a place of pure intention and receptiveness.
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Paula Schneider
Jan 5, 2023
As a lifelong student of New Thought philosophies and serving as a Registered Nurse for 40 years, listening well, attentively, and accurately has been extremely important to me. The last 3-4 years I have studied Esoteric Christianity and have met with my study groups regularly. The reading and the interacting with people of like mind have both come together to allow me to practice generative listening on a regular basis. Being mindful and attentive to others as they speak (and also to be aware of my own internal thought processes) has helped a great deal, and I'd say at this point that most of my listening occurs at this level, but not all of it. There's always room to grow!
" A friend of mine became a father last night when he spoke in his voice I could hear the light" Bruce Springsteen
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Kas
Jan 5, 2023
I paused at the use of “Oh yes, I know how you’re feeling”. Empathetic listening should be about the person being listened to, not you, and you cannot completely know how another feels. “Oh, my. I’m so sorry, that sounds so hard.” See Brene Brown’s work.
Ottos Theory U work came to me at a time when I was just discovering mindfulness through the greater good science centre. The practices and teachings profoundly changed how I worked as an educator and what I do as a school curriculum leader. I am so grateful for the power of presence and the thought leadership Otto has helped to provide.
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Lauri
Jan 5, 2023
In the midst of large family, gatherings, I connect with my 2 month old granddaughter and we gaze into each other. She is the perfect teacher.
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Fred MindlinMar 6, 2023
Ah yes, listening with the eyes. As an elementary school teacher, my lesson to kids always begins with the importance of looking directly at the speaker. The eyes are the most important listening sensors.
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loretta mendoza
Jan 5, 2023
I learned a method of listening in a spiritual direction program called Contemplative Listening which is
Learning the art of listening deeply with the ears of the heart. Listening without asking questions but merely observing and reflecting back what we hear
I have been studying with Thomas Huebl for several years. He teaches Transparent Communication and trauma work. We practice this in Triads and Dyads. I was in a Dyad for 2 years and my partner helped me understand that when I would respond to his sharing from a deep place, e.g. when I got out of my thought process and stayed in my heart it was helpful for him. Sometimes no answer would appear and I would continue to hold space for him.
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Fried Schüle
Feb 27, 2022
I call level four " deep listening " and I find it helpful to name this different types or forms of listening.
I move through all stages of listening depending on the context of what is happening In the moment for me. It feels human to experience All four types.
Feb 12, 2022
A n embodied & profound field of coming-into-being, with one’s emerging authentic Self is always personally inspired with each morning’s Bluebird visitors, at the window “feeder box.â€
Nature’s state of becoming (& my own aspirational & spacious awareness gifts du jour’) ••• mutually mirrors one’s emergent sense of source generation, amidst utter peace of its ubiquitous presence.
Am humbled especially by the generative listening...I must say it is a healing type of listening that we must engage in ...80% of the time we spend listening...If this was what we were engaged in
..then there would be less of wars...less diseases...less stress and less unwanted characters....
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Mary
Feb 11, 2022
I have listened at all 4 levels. I am most alive in the third and fourth levels. Empathic listening is a spiritual experience as every part of me is with the being I am listening to. Everything else fades into the background. I am a therapist so I engage in empathic listening daily. The fourth level of listening is the deepest of spiritual experiences for me as I lose all sense of self and move into the divine. I experience this when I am in the woods or in a deep meditation.
Have been experiencing this level of listening since I got in touch with my fellow service space friends. Lately I’ve been actively and consciously practicing it with my close family and co creators of the spaces we are holding for our initiatives and I can feel a tremendous change in how things emerge and take a beautiful turn when you are able to listen hearts of people rather than listening their voices .
When you start seeing that invisible universal power in everyone , it helps in consciously choosing the right level of listening . I’ve seen Nipun Bhai listening to thousands of fellows in this manner and everytime I become little impatient, his smily face with self less love and peaceful eyes comes in front of me:)
Feb 11, 2022
How lovely to have words for this 4th level of listening... : )
Feb 10, 2022
Insightful, deep, reflection on depths of developmental listening. Still learning
Feb 10, 2022
In my listening experiences, the style depends upon the situation - who, venue, format, topic, teacher, student, etc. Different listening activities will determine what style is used. Listening to someone discuss their experiences of, for example, going out for coffee or to a ballgame compared to describing what it was like when they learned they were told they had cancer and how jumbled up their future just became. We shift. A remarkable ability we have is being able to be the dad for a child who was describing an activity in school, listening to my wife explain her day or having my son tell me his wife's brother just died. In each instance, we must remove ourselves from the speaker's story. It isn't about us.
Years ago i remember being told the reason God gave us two ears and one mouth is that it is more important to listen than talk.
Most of the time we are in the first two types of listening. I consciously practice the third type of listening while facilitating workshops for my participants. However, I have experienced the fourth type of listening as well specially when we listen to reflections of others after a intense breakout session. I realise that i remain in first type of listening with my son because of which we have a lot of conflict. i need to move to third and forth type with him and i know i can do it.
When i read the article I realized that my listening is growing in these stages, that I had never really analyzed the way this has been articulated in such a spectacular way here. Over the recent past I believe that with Spiritual growth and turning within and seeing the splendor of the spirit within, I have moved on to the 3rd stage of listening where my 11 year old daughter is concerned. I have been looking at myself more as a spiritual partner to her which has enabled me to switch to this 3rd level of listening and connecting with her at a deeper level.
The 4th level of listening is a tremendous shift in energy and consciousness and I recently had the opportunity to practice this in being a vessel of consciousness to close friends of ours going through a very difficult time. I am beginning to see this shift and will continue on this path as it brings so much joy and peace within that is hard to explain in words sometimes. I am so grateful for this sacred space and know we are all on... View full comment
When i read the article I realized that my listening is growing in these stages, that I had never really analyzed the way this has been articulated in such a spectacular way here. Over the recent past I believe that with Spiritual growth and turning within and seeing the splendor of the spirit within, I have moved on to the 3rd stage of listening where my 11 year old daughter is concerned. I have been looking at myself more as a spiritual partner to her which has enabled me to switch to this 3rd level of listening and connecting with her at a deeper level.
The 4th level of listening is a tremendous shift in energy and consciousness and I recently had the opportunity to practice this in being a vessel of consciousness to close friends of ours going through a very difficult time. I am beginning to see this shift and will continue on this path as it brings so much joy and peace within that is hard to explain in words sometimes. I am so grateful for this sacred space and know we are all once consciousness bound by this invisible source that speaks from within the depths of our soul, the 4th dimension. Hide full comment
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Rachna
Nov 28, 2020
A beautiful article resonated withit so much, actuallycould see my own progress from level one to level four over the years and varying connections and situations.
When I accepted my self as I am, instead of conforming to those around me, there was a peace within and how I perceived others also changed. Listening with interest changes the interaction with the speaker also.
The depth and energy of the listener can make the speaker too, to change her/his stance, content & intent of speech.
Every listening seems to unravel the beauty of the cosmic design.
There is another listening, where there is no speaker, no words but something flows within which is enlightening.
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Nahelia
Oct 2, 2020
I see my self going through every level of listening. Then, I ask myself, what is different in my experience that I can have different types of listening? I think most of the time has to do with the level of intimacy that the talk has. I found that I am more receptive when people are talking about their personal life rather than when someone is speaking about politics. I will keep this in mind.
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Mr. Viswanath Kumar
Sep 1, 2020
the topic of conversation would have a direct impact on the type of listening. It is very rare to have the third or fourth type of listening.
I can relate to each levels of listening as I am aware and observe myself listening . I can tell if the speaker is wanting an interaction and engaged conversation while open to other or new ideas. Then I find myself in generative listing. I don't personally choose my level of listening it seems automatic based on the individual that I'm speaking with.
Today I spoke with a friend I have not seen in sometime and listened to her thoughts and concerns about the Covid situation.I listen to from my heart and could tell her emotion beneath her words. This is how I responded to see about relaxing her concerns in a more objective less emotional way.
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Fred Walsh
Jun 24, 2020
I enjoyed reading this topic on the 4 types of listening.
I believe deep listening or generative listening happens when I am learning new information that touches my heart, head and body to act or pursue an activity.
These patterns of listening exist almost similarly when I am going through written matter.
The fourth type , when invoked by my total attention and attitude of pondering with all my capacities , is of great benefit when i read words from or about persons who have experienced exalted states and felt finer realities. The words would have been written to convey that finer reality. But the state can be glimpsed by the reader, if at all, only when a 'generative' immersion takes place. I read a line and stop. Try to feel what the words call up in me. Come back to the words repeatedly , sometimes over many days with a full faith that the author has touched something profound which is yet not experienced by me.
Grateful to the author and Awakin circle for this piece which has the potential to make my listening conscious and skillful.
There is a huge difference between 'hearing and listening'. Non-judgemental listening is more
effective without any previous pre-conceived ideas and opinions. The 'fourth type of listening'
is more ideal and beneficial for one and all.
The first three use our ears and brain (mind), but I would suggest that the fourth is “heart listening”, when the mind drops or centers down into the deep of “heart” where words and explanations disappear and only divine knowledge is left. }:- a.m.
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Angelica HardingMar 4, 2022
Yes Patrick. That has been my experience too. The heart is wiser than the brain.
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Rommell
Jun 16, 2020
I have found Focusing/Embodied Listening, as developed by Eugene Gendlin, to be a wonderful technique. The practice seems applicableto the fourth level, and when done with another person, the idea of being heard takes one to even another level. Gendlin's six steps are really a great tool!
I have been experimenting with Listening. I have observed & continue to these four levels of listening.I have discovered , first hand, is that when I m fully attentive, fully present, listening with my whole being happens.I Just listen, without uttering a word. Many a times , there is no response, or response slows down.Thers is empathy & compassion. When it doesn't , that too I notice.It has been an interesting, fun& joyful process to watch this happening! In Gratitude ! ðŸ˜ðŸ™ðŸŽ¶
I learned that communication is head to head, heart to heart, or soul to soul. For me, Scharmer's first two levels, downloading and object-focused listening, are head to head. I think his third level, empathic listening, is heart to heart. And the fourth level, which he calls generative listening, seems to be soul to soul. When I have enjoyed generative listening, I was very with the other in the present, paying close attention to the other and to what I was experiencing in response to the other, I was open, and the interaction was intimate for me and apparently also for the other. What helps me consciously choose my level of listening is my level of tiredness, my level of care, my level of interest, my level of trust. What also helps me is knowing that I can listen at different levels. Also, due to my desire for intimacy, I choose listening and speaking that are intimate, and I think such listening is what Scharmer calls generative listening.
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AmbikaJun 15, 2020
As a professional counselor I have experienced the impact of the different styles of listening that I extend to those who seek me out professionally and seen their impact. They left me souless. After the session I felt empty, untouched. I woke up to the impact and over the years went through immense spiritual lessons and guidance to start listening to myself. I turned empathetic to my own needs. I began to impact me.
This became my pattern of listening towards my clients too. I give my whole self and listen to them. There is no 'Me' and 'Them'. It is only me. Devoid of all clutter in the head. I listen with my whole being.
The result is that they too feel that. Healing happens. we have connected sou to soul. In one field of consciousness interaction has happened.Client and Counselor disappeared. It was Being to Being.
DD
David DoaneJun 17, 2020
Ambika -- Thanks for the response. Yes, I also think the soul to soul connection begins with listening to self, which I think makes it easier for the other to listen to his/her self. And I sure think soul to soul connection heals.
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GururajJun 19, 2020
These words of yours struck a chord. "What helps me consciously choose my level of listening is my level of tiredness, my level of care, my level of interest, my level of trust."
For me , when I am unconscious and reacting in set ways then the "download" listening happens and often a reply gets prepared in me stemming from that pre-habituated opinion about the speaker.
DD
David DoaneJun 20, 2020
I agree, Gururaj. I think by pre-habituated opinion you mean what I call preconceived opinion. When I reply from a pre-habituated opinion about the speaker, I am responding to my thinking and not to the speaker, which lessens or eliminates connection with the speaker.
Otto Scharmer'sarticle on Four Types of Listening makes me reflect on how do I listen, what's my listening style. "Ya, I know that already." When I readsomething or listen tosomething that I already know, my curiosity level is more on the surface level. As the author writes I am listening by downloading. There is nothing new to learn. It confirms what I already know. Breaking News is mostly not really breaking news.
"Ooh, look at that!". This kind of listening has wonderment, something new. It perks my years. It stirs up my curiosity. In the morning when I look out from my window, I marvel when I listen to the birds talking to each other. Though I have heard them talk before but I feel the newness in theirchirping. This happens when I read a poem. It may be a new poem or the poem I haveread before. I wonder from where does this newness emerge? The authorlabels it as Object-focusedor Factual Listening. It does sound right to me. Maybe, I missed the boat!
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Otto Scharmer'sarticle on Four Types of Listening makes me reflect on how do I listen, what's my listening style. "Ya, I know that already." When I readsomething or listen tosomething that I already know, my curiosity level is more on the surface level. As the author writes I am listening by downloading. There is nothing new to learn. It confirms what I already know. Breaking News is mostly not really breaking news.
"Ooh, look at that!". This kind of listening has wonderment, something new. It perks my years. It stirs up my curiosity. In the morning when I look out from my window, I marvel when I listen to the birds talking to each other. Though I have heard them talk before but I feel the newness in theirchirping. This happens when I read a poem. It may be a new poem or the poem I haveread before. I wonder from where does this newness emerge? The authorlabels it as Object-focusedor Factual Listening. It does sound right to me. Maybe, I missed the boat!
" Oh, yes, I know how you feel!" This is Empathic Listening. This level of listeningrequirescultivation of the intelligence of the heart. When I see an angry or hateful face or a fearful or sad face my I listen from my heart. I empathize with them. Such listening makes me understand the other person on inner and deeper level.
" I can't expresswhat I experiencein words". The author names this kindof listening Generative Listening. This kind of listening happens to me when I am in soul-to soul relationshipor spiritual relationship. I am in a Being Zone. I feel at home. I discover my real self. The outer and the innerwalls go away. A deep sense of oneness dawns upon me. I would name it Spiritual Listening.
My life journey has gone through different phases of my development. It is an ascending journey with some ups and downs and twist and turns. It is not a straight line. Taking time out tomeditate, introspect and reflect keeps me walking on this path.
Namaste!
Jagdish P Dave