SEED QUESTIONS FOR REFLECTION: How do you relate to both good and evil needing to be fed to serve us? How does one stay mindful while engaging with both forces, not as a reaction, but out of a true sense of freedom? Can you share a personal story that illustrates the Cherokee wisdom?
Thank you, Audrey for that great story. I had not heard that ending before. I facilitate a grief group on Wednesdays. It is a safe place for people to feed that dark wolf. Sometimes we feel that we are not allowed to feel those sad feelings, that we are considered weak and at a disadvantage. What we acknowledge in the grief group is that the only way to allow feelings to pass is to feel them. We do some crying and some laughing in equal measure in the group. Beneath it all is great love, for without love, there would be no grief.
I love this story and have shared it many times myself but the version I have is not this one. This one is better. What a powerful teaching. To honor both the light and the dark of our own nature.
OMG what a twist! you added to the otherwise grand story. So the Black wolf is now courageous and foregoing and brave? No in this story, the essence is to go for good even when that is the road less travel or the aparently harder route to take. No short cuts!
The way the story goes, its bad vs god, evil vs virtue, the black one is corrupted will never be good, there is no Yin and Yang, its pure duality, but the bad will never die - even if you try to kill it. Don't get confused adding niceness to the black one, it has none, its deceiving, it will tell you differently do, it will always cone you into its ways if you let it - That what evil does, and no one needs evil!
My part in a relationship seems to suffer due to my lack of self worth this a negativity that i have always struggled with regards all aspects of my life. Not a balanced view of one self. I don't want to let anybody down but my approach seems to do just that. The balanced aproach that you refer to of the 2 wolves how can that be practiced?
What I call good and evil are all me. Qualities in me that I like, I call good, and qualities that I don't like, I call evil, and all qualities are me. The qualities are different but they are not separate from me, and in proclaiming some of them separate and evil I split myself and make some of me my enemy to deny or repress or destroy. I become a house divided. The challenge is to feed both, accept and incorporate all of me, and become whole. I can learn to use all of me and have all of me be of service to me rather than aspects of me that I don't like taking control of me. All that is easier said than done, but I have a lifetime to work on it. Being mindful is a way of seeing that what I call good and what I call evil are me, which helps me be free to get to know and utilize all of me. As for a personal story, what comes to mind is that I've come to know that I don't have to or need to be angry, and the energy that used to become anger is more often firmness or assertiveness or compassion.[Hide Full Comment]
I really thought that this story was very interesting, I enjoy Indian sayings and proverbs from Rolling Thunder,Lloyd Carl Owle (Cherokee) and Crowfoot (Blackfoot) and some from unknown authors. But the story puts to my mind how we all have good and bad in all of us, none of us are without sin. GOD gave us free will, HE created us in HIS own Image not the other way around. Satan likes to twist the truth ever so slightly just enough to confuse us, because that is what he is the master of confusion. I've heard people say making reference to the scriptures we have created GOD in our own image, Shame on you! That's idolatry in my book. When we continue to feed the darker side of ourselves doing wrong when we know what is right. I think many people have heard that old saying, "The devil made me do it." Whose voice do you follow more?
I did not find anything inspiring or informative.
Perhaps, rather than labelling them 'good' and 'evil' (which also has unpleasant christian nuances or hellfire etc), we could think of our selves as being a mix of love and fear. It is our fear which drives us to fight, to resent, to protect our 'fragile' selves against real or imagined threats. Our fear prompts us to draw back from others, to view them with suspicion, alert for danger. It is our love which prompts us to compassion, to empathy, to kindness, to move out into the world of others with confidence in our strength and abilities. We need our fear - we've survived as a species because of it - but we need not live in it.
Inner forces do not fight only for evil or anger, there are many other types of fight goes inside us.
Many times it is between right or wrong, favor to one and disfavor to other, between love and duty, between friend and family what to choose. All the life we have situations where by we are unable to decide what to do and what not to do.
Hundreds and thousands of times in our life we have situations where by we have to fight with our selves to find what to do and what not to do and what is right and what is wrong. Lot many times there is no evil in what we are unable to decide. It is only the justification what to do in a particular situation.
Many a times we have a problem in our mind to continue with the present job and between joining a new Job.
So we are in conflict of thoughts and that is the practical problem we face in situations where there is no one to guide us. So what we should do at that time?
Many a times i have been in that situation with no answer.
At last I found a solution, which has never been wrong and I never had to regret.
That's what i am going to suggest all the readers. (The answer to this problem was given to me by my father whom i trusted well.)
If you are ever in such a situation just write the problem in few words or few lines. Keep it there for the night and in the morning take that paper as a letter form your son who is seeking an advice from you.
So now what you would suggest to your son in that situation?
What you would suggest to your son do the same and you would never be wrong.
I can swear, it has never proved to be wrong, in my life. I assure you if you do the same you will never regret for your decision in your life.
i did this, paid the black wolf and the white wolf equal respect. the black wolf saw this as a weeknes. i think this is a nice idea, but dangerous. remeber the gingerbread man.
Greetings, I thought you might like my animation of The Legend Of Two Wolves
This is not of Cherokee origin. It has been passed around the internet a
lot. A lot of digging and research on this story has been done. The
earliest form of this story is found inÂ 1978 written by the Evangelical
Christian Minister Billy Graham in his book,The Holy Spirit: Activating
God Power in Your Life. Of all native peoples of the land now called USA,
the Cherokee kept impeccable records of many of their stories because they have the written word and this story is not in their collection.
I bring this forward because enemy-images are very damaging -even if they
are positive images. I have found that politically correct and "positive";
labels can keep just as much distance between people as "negative"; ones. I have found that Idle No More has encouraged me to speak more on matters - even something as small as this ...I call this small because I trust that your sharing of this story is trying to contribute to well-being, love, learning, compassion, and care. And at the same time I feel the importance to speak the clarity that idealizing Indians (the misnamed indigenous peoples of what is now called North and South America) as "wise old Indians" can be just a damaging as it keeps people from seeing us/them as we/they really human. It is to me for the true voices of people to be heard and understood. I walk with an ache in my heart daily about the invisibility of so many people - and it is very close to me what is happening here in the US. The US government still controls huge populations of people who have to live on reservations. Even in this day when so many people fight for equal rights and justice there is still a lack of seeing what happens on US reservations and how the tribes are still trying to survive. There is an entire population of people in the US that have to register with the government in order to be able to claim their heritage, their birthright. I am not talking about being considered a citizen of a country- being registered simply to have an identity as a human being.
Seeing the words "an old Cherokee teaching" stimulates much pain around clarity and authenticity for me. It is not typically "native" to include the "moral" of the story in the story nor is it typical to have "good" battle "evil". Also, black and white are not seen as "good" and "evil". Those ideas came to fruition after colonization and with slavery. Those ideas were then imposed on stories already within the cultures. Also, wolf is quite sacred to Cherokee people even thought most the wolves that lived among them before the Trail of Tears have been hunted to extinction. Wolf is one of the clans. The "positive"; and "negative"; enemy-imaging of wolves also has kept a separation that continues such misunderstanding that they last surviving in North America are now face extinction. I request all of us, myself included, that as we share our "rememberings" wewalk with a consciousness of really acknowledging where they come from and support freedom from all enemy-images, negative or positive, that keep people (and all beings) separate. I encourage people to seek out the true lineage of a story or quote they find, especially when it has a general attribution like "Chinese proverb", " Indian saying", "Cherokee";...etc...or simply share the story or quote with the transparency of not knowing its true origins and simply the needs you are connected to in sharing it.
I have never thought about my inner self in that way and never realized that I needed to pay attention to both because of the qualities that each brings to my life. I appreciate the insight. Thank you.
I love all parts of me.love, acceptance, forgiveness. I give all to me. And, in doing so, I have more to give to others.