I call bull, it is not prefound, it is misleading. The fact that he did not care what happens does not necessarily mean that that is the way to become enlightened. People confuse the actions of an enlightened or nearly enlightened being with the methodology to become enlightened. Not caring is a by product of enlightenment it is not the path to enlightenment. His statement is true but few will understand what it means so why say it in the first place? People seem to confuse mimicking the behaviors and attitudes of highly evolved people with the ways to become highly evolved, and it doesn't work that way. Acting like a spiritual master does not make you a spiritual master. You do not become enlightened by trying to become enlightened. This is the thing almost all spritual traditions don't understand. This is psuedo spirtituality, in that there is no such thing as spirituality. Spirtuality is just another word for the quest for who we already are, not the beingness of it. Enlightement is not spiritual, it is just our true nature. Sprituality has to do with seeking the highest not being the highest, and that is the way to not find it.
The ego needs to be in control to survive, yet the ego is what blocks us from the realization of our true nature, so if you are looking for enlightement you can be sure it is the ego that is doing the looking. The true self does not desire enlightenment or anything else for it is already all that is or can be. Only the false self seeks it because it does not realize we already are it. So if you are seeking it you are doing so from the false self, and the false self is the thing that is getting in the way of realizing it in the first place. It is a catch 22. Seeking anything spiritual is just another way the ego self runs shotgun to insulate us from the realization of the true self. By seeking it has taken the reins of control yet again, and this illusion of control is used to strengthen itself and cloud our vision. The belief that we are the ego self is what stops us from seeing what we truly are, and the more control ego beleives it has the better it stops us from seeing the truth. Seeking is therefore just another avenue of control that the lower self uses to block the realization of the higher self. Seeking enlightement is egos last stand, the focus has shifted inward and the ego knows its days are numbered so it uses the quest for enlightment to prevent it from taking place. It diverts the focus from just "realizing" to "seeking", thus it delays the process as it was designed to do. Enlightement is simply our true state of being that is realizied when ego dies off enough to let it be seen. It is not found in seeking because it is not about finding anything, it is about removing the layers of illusion (ego) that prevent us realising what has always been right there under our nose.
On Sep 29, 2023John wrote :
U G Krishnamurti disputes that there is such a thing as enlightenment-it's a myth.
On Dec 8, 2018 G2 wrote :
I call bull, it is not prefound, it is misleading. The fact that he did not care what happens does not necessarily mean that that is the way to become enlightened. People confuse the actions of an enlightened or nearly enlightened being with the methodology to become enlightened. Not caring is a by product of enlightenment it is not the path to enlightenment. His statement is true but few will understand what it means so why say it in the first place? People seem to confuse mimicking the behaviors and attitudes of highly evolved people with the ways to become highly evolved, and it doesn't work that way. Acting like a spiritual master does not make you a spiritual master. You do not become enlightened by trying to become enlightened. This is the thing almost all spritual traditions don't understand. This is psuedo spirtituality, in that there is no such thing as spirituality. Spirtuality is just another word for the quest for who we already are, not the beingness of it. Enlightement is not spiritual, it is just our true nature. Sprituality has to do with seeking the highest not being the highest, and that is the way to not find it.
The ego needs to be in control to survive, yet the ego is what blocks us from the realization of our true nature, so if you are looking for enlightement you can be sure it is the ego that is doing the looking. The true self does not desire enlightenment or anything else for it is already all that is or can be. Only the false self seeks it because it does not realize we already are it. So if you are seeking it you are doing so from the false self, and the false self is the thing that is getting in the way of realizing it in the first place. It is a catch 22. Seeking anything spiritual is just another way the ego self runs shotgun to insulate us from the realization of the true self. By seeking it has taken the reins of control yet again, and this illusion of control is used to strengthen itself and cloud our vision. The belief that we are the ego self is what stops us from seeing what we truly are, and the more control ego beleives it has the better it stops us from seeing the truth. Seeking is therefore just another avenue of control that the lower self uses to block the realization of the higher self. Seeking enlightement is egos last stand, the focus has shifted inward and the ego knows its days are numbered so it uses the quest for enlightment to prevent it from taking place. It diverts the focus from just "realizing" to "seeking", thus it delays the process as it was designed to do. Enlightement is simply our true state of being that is realizied when ego dies off enough to let it be seen. It is not found in seeking because it is not about finding anything, it is about removing the layers of illusion (ego) that prevent us realising what has always been right there under our nose.