Rollin McCraty: Yeah, there's kind of two domains that we work in. Some is the really wide stuff, like sending love to trees and that. But on the more grounded or practical side is training groups to get in, because I'm pretty confident that we can train groups of people, maybe people who don't necessarily get along to start with, into a more coherent state where we can get them, in a measurable way, more synchronization going on, and see how that then leads to people being able to maybe rise above some of the separations and things that are dominant in their consciousness and awareness.

Nipun: I guess that polarization is such a big issue, and if you're able to... I think we often tend to think that polarization is cognitive alone. And then you say, let's dialogue, and then it's cognition to cognition, but you're actually providing a deeper frame. You're saying, let's all tune into the field, be more coherent, and then allow the mind and all its customers to follow and see if we can have harmony there.

Rollin McCraty: Well, yeah, it's really more being able to communicate from the heart, to say it simply, but more from our larger self's awareness, which can help us rise above the mind, the dimension of just the cognitive or mind intelligence.

Nipun: But when you say let your heart communicate, it's very different than most people say. When you say, speak from the heart, they're like, hey, this is just the thought that came up, and I'm just gonna say whatever thing that comes up, because that's what's in my heart. That's not what you mean by speak from the heart. Yeah, so it's not just, hey, say whatever your mind is telling you to say, because that's...

Rollin McCraty: The problem. Yeah.

Nipun: So, what would you say? When you say, speak from the heart, can you just clarify?

Rollin McCraty: Well, okay. Yeah. The simplest way I could say this is that when I'm saying the word heart, I mean the heart as a portal, energetic heart as a literal portal or bridge to your larger self, or higher self, your soul spirit, whatever language you want to use. That connection is what can bring the mind and emotions into alignment with who we really are at another dimension of intelligence.

Right? Until we do that, we're stuck with just 3D mind, right? And that's the world we live in right now, unfortunately.

Nipun: Yeah, but hopefully we'll evolve.

Rollin McCraty: Well, no, we are evolving. That is what—

Nipun: It's on deck, it's on deck! Yeah.

Rollin McCraty: Yeah. I mean, it's all about the evolution of consciousness.