Nipun: The more coherent you are, that means the more loving you are, the more heart coherence you have.

Rollin McCraty: Right. What is the implication of what it goes out? So let's say I have a lot of anger that the world is not in a good place, that I need to change it.

Nipun: And I use that anger to try to motivate my action, versus I generate love. And then I try to operate from that basis. So that's a common scenario, right? Two common scenarios. Now, what's actually happening inside of us in both of those states, and why is love more effective?

Rollin McCraty: We could spend an hour answering both sides of that question, but… Well, if we take… if we go back to what I meant, how I defined coherence earlier. When we're more loving, more caring, kinder. That is, taking our rhythms into a more coherent state. Right?

I saw you had used one of the analogies I used. If you think of the rhythms of the heart, the heart is by far the master rhythm maker in the body, right? So, that's very clear. And the heart sends more information to the brain than the other way around, so these rhythms are going directly to the brain at all centers of the brain.

And so when we're in an angry state, or frustrated, or these kinds of feelings, the heart rate really becomes very jagged and chaotic-looking. Think of the heart as the conductor. Right? If you think of the body's music that it's playing.

If the conductor, if you think of an orchestra, gets out of sync and gets frustrated and kind of frazzled, the music becomes very discordant. And that's what's playing out in the body. So it's a very energy-inefficient state. It ends up what leads to a mental state called cortical inhibition.

This is a term coined long before I came along to describe the effects of incoherent heart rhythms on brain function. Right? That's why we do stupid things when we get emotionally upset. Right?

So, that's also affecting the hormonal system, the immune system, all functioning suboptimally. So that's what's going on in us. Now we're also then radiating those more incoherent vibrations. In the field.

And that also has an impact on others as well, which we've all experienced. Somebody's, you're having a good time, somebody comes in all angry and upset, you can feel that. It's the same thing. I don't know, does this help us?

Nipun: How did… yeah, go ahead, please, sorry.

Rollin McCraty: But as we were able to shift into coherence, now the conductor's just in sync. Right? So now the music playing through the body and the system is very beautiful and harmonious, and…