Rollin McCraty: Well, we did this because one of the things we kept hearing, and still to this day hear, is when people start learning about how to shift in and practice coherence, and especially using the technology that we later developed to help people measure and train into that state. That if they practice it a while, they're sincere about it, over a few weeks. They're coming back and saying, God, my intuition is on… this is not subtle. I'm connecting with something deeper here.

And then usually the second thing is, synchronicities have become a way of life. We just hear this all the time. So we said, okay, how can we measure this in the lab, right? So we did these experiments over a couple years, actually.

And the first protocol for that was people are at a computer, and they're all wired up—EEG, brainwaves, and heartbeats, and skin conductance, and these types of things. And they are sitting at a computer screen like we are now, and an image is going to show up that they have no way of knowing what's going to be. Right, but we're looking at the data before they see the image. And it's either going to be a really yucky one, like a snake striking at the screen, or pretty edgy things from these photos that have been well-researched to evoke different types of emotions and intensity of emotion.

So it's going to be one of those really yucky ones, I'll use scientific terms here, right? Or a calm, neutral one, like bunny rabbits or nature scenes, right? And I'm not going to go into all the gory details, because it's all published, but it's done in a way that it's impossible to guess and learn from the pattern of what the future picture's going to be. What we found, I'm going to make a long story short here, was that the first—I'm going to call this the pre-stimulus, before you see the image, is that the heart shifts first.

We see it change in a way that's very predictive, highly significantly, statistically significant of what the future picture's going to be. Then we see the heart sends a majorly different neural signal, which we can trace. To the brain, and then you can actually trace that, it's called afferent, or ascending neural signal, all through the brain, where it goes, when, and where. All the way to the frontal cortex.

Then you get, all before you see the image, right? And then you get a body response, the change in body that's down to so you feel the gut or the hair on the back of the neck. All this is happening before you see the image. Right?

But the heart's the first... Where the signal starts from, in that sequence. I mean, that's...

Nipun: Mind-blowing.