Rollin McCraty: Right? And, so we, I get quoted a lot for... It's really no big deal, but saying that you can measure the heart's magnetic field about 3 feet away from the body, or in a brainwave about an inch with these ultra-sensitive magnetometers. And I always need to clarify that, that's not how far the field goes.

That's the current sensitivity of the instruments to measure it. Right? I mean, the field goal, because we were doing experiments even back then, way farther than 3 feet. So our physiology is more sensitive Then, these multi-thousands of dollars of magnetic instruments, magnetic measuring instruments.

As we were showing, just like you said, hearts and brains connected, many feet apart. Then, one experiment we did back then, I'm having to dust off my memory banks here a little bit. In fact, this is one of the ones I got wrong, right? Because I'm kind of coming from an old-school engineering perspective, saying, if I'm in a heart-coherent state, I'm radiating more coherent fields, which is true.

Right? Into the environment. Other people are going to synchronize to me, the all-powerful one coherent one broadcasting the coherent signal, right? Well, the data didn't support that, I was completely wrong.

What actually ended up happening, when you're in that coherent, stable state. Right, and we can talk more about what I mean by coherence and current rhythms, but what happened is it was the… well, I'm using me in the example here, but there's other people we were doing the research on. In that state, out of that stability came another level of what I call energetic sensitivity. It was the person who was coherent was synchronizing, their brain waves were synchronizing to the other person, much more so.

So they were more stable, less able to get knocked out of their center, but yet had access to that intuitive channel of information from the other person. So we were really on to, without understanding at that time, an electrophysiological measure of empathy. Right? The capacity to really tune in to the frequencies of someone else and synchronize to them.