On Feb 1, 2013 Sandra wrote:|
I've heard this story before, perhaps with variations. It's difficult to follow the migration from angry, arrogant, inferior wolf to one who also has tenacity, courage, etc. I wonder if we in society don't get confused about all that? Some traditions would suggest those negative qualities are just the dark, or abused so-to-speak sides of fearlessness and courage. My studies have convinced me all that evil is no part of spiritual being, evil is a pretender. Some suggest just watching those angry thoughts, letting them drift away, as opposed to "feeding" them. Others suggest denouncing them and adhering to, acknowledging that only the good, joyful, caring, etc. qualities are real, or powerful, or even present. Paying attention to the evil, error would for me only give it power it has not on its own. It's perhaps the age old debate about picking up the child every time it cries. My suggestion is we all revisit the notion that a spiritual child of God could have any real darkness inside, that the struggle we deal with is with false gods?
On Feb 1, 2013 Conrad P. Pritscher wrote:|
Excellent story. Thank you. Deep in my unconscious I feed the good wolf often starve the black Wolf. When I stop to think about the story, I agree that peace is everything as it seems to me it also is in Zen living. When I meditate I can more often allow both wolves to exist. After many years of living and a number of years of meditating, I find that my first unconscious reaction and/or action is to be impatient when something occurs as I don't want to to occur. Shortly after my period of impatience, when mindful, I notice I am patient and I am more peaceful . The time between my patience and impatience often irritates others and me but I am learning to forgive myself again, and again, and again.
Gail Brenner's idea of the wisdom "Of forgetting what you know" is helpful to notice. She said:"We are so afraid to let go, to just be, to allow the unfolding of this marvelous life without getting in the way. This fear keep us paralyzed and stuck. And longing for the peace that is possible – – if only we would put down all the efforts we make to know. There is no greater gift you can give yourself than the invitation to enter the world of not knowing. Why? If you are always going to know what you know now, things will always stay the same. How could they change? And by thinking you know what will happen, you are closing yourself off to the unimaginable – – endless peace, unspeakable joy, awe and wonder."
Warm and kind regards to everyone
On Feb 1, 2013 Kristin Pedemonti wrote:|
thank you for sharing the Entire story. I have often heard only the first version which denies one or the other. We all have yin/yang, dark/light, the bright/shadow side. It is truth that we need to be in balance to truly help ourselves and others. I was just speaking about this with a friend; when we are "grounded" we can serve so much better. If we are too joyful, it may feel as if it does not come fully from our heart, it may be off putting. When we combine our joy with vulnerability, we are more human and approachable. One can say this with Any of our white wolf or black wolf qualities; it is all about seeing the strength of both. Thank you so much for sharing. I can say that in my life, when I am in balance and at peace with both sides is when I am in the flow; when things seem to come together for me; whether in my Storytelling Work or when I was working in cancer research or at the AIDS hotline. It was all similar experiences; in balance reflected in Every aspect of my life. thank you for sharing. I needed this reminder today as I work on meditation. HUGS to you.
On Feb 1, 2013 Rahul wrote:|
Loved the extension of this story back to its original roots. Made me think of whether we can apply the same analogy to the external world i.e. we have unsavory characters who embody the black wolf more than the white in many parts of our workplaces and official institutions. Is this a wise choice, mindful of the wisdom of this passage? Is the black wolf within, and the black wolves without, content not reign supreme and dominate the white wolf? Personally, I am unsure, but I once heard of people complaining to a well-known saint about mischief done by unsavory characters in her organization. Her response was that she had to keep them close, or they'd create much more mischief in the outside world.
On Feb 2, 2013 BCK MISHRA wrote:|
A wonderful story. To have peace inside one should not allow struggle inside in between two wolves. But the good has to be fed more so that the evil is not able to raise his head. Good and evil can not be fed equally and can not be made equally strong lest the evil attacks and wins at slightest opportunity.
On Feb 3, 2013 david doane wrote:|
I love this piece -- I think it is about something very important about us and for us. What we call good and evil, both inside us and outside us, is all us. It's just that some of me and some of others I don't like, so I separate from it and call it wrong or evil, repress it and disown it, and in the process it festers and grows in a distorted way (at least in my perception), and I see it as not me. I disidentify with parts or aspects of me and us and I come to see a split within me between my good self and my dark side, and as a people we come to see a split between us (good) and them (bad). But it's all me, it's all us, and it is important to feed all of me and all of us, what I call good and what I call evil. It is easy to feed or nurture what I call good -- I like for that to show. To feed the parts of me and us that I call evil means to acknowledge, listen to, explore, learn from, accept and embrace those parts, rather than demonize and repress and fight them. They are all me. They are all us. They are different from what I prefer, but they are not separate, and that is important to remember. We make separations in our minds. When I see aspects of me and others as separate from me and evil, I see them as the enemy to fight and destroy. When I see expressions of me and us as different and hard for me to accept, they are most likely unknown by me, and by realizing it's all me and us, by owning and incorporating those aspects, I grow and become integrated. Staying mindful of this has been important for me, including that I become more accepting and compassionate and more free to be accepting and compassionate.
On Feb 4, 2013 Sethi wrote:|
Thank you for sharing . As a child I used to listen to stories and also read stories of good triumphs over evil , be it in the Ramayana , Mahabharta and that got deeply ingrained in my DNA . In my own life I have experienced the same , When I have encouraged the negative part of me , that part got the upper hand and in the process my negativity became visible in terms of anger , jealousy , ego , etc . I had an emotional roller coaster ride and in the process my marriage broke up . However that was in the past which I have put behind . Thereafter the transformation gradually happened as I listened to the voice within and I uncovered the veil within which covered the spiritual part of me . I encouraged the positive within me and love , trust peace , understanding , humility , gratitude have been the dominant emotions of my life . This has also helped me to heal my relationships with whoever I have hurt in my life and healed the relationships starting with my wife . It has been a wonderful experience walking my own path in life .
On Feb 5, 2013 Leela Ramdhani wrote:|
I like the idea of balance and being able to hold multiple perspectives : it supports the idea that life is about both and and not a clear choice between on or the other - it also embraces all of us and not forcing us to aspire to this Mary Poppins view of who we should be - all light and happiness. --- not sure about the black and white depictions too stereotyped but very useful variation.
On Feb 5, 2013 Ganoba wrote:|
This is advait in very simple terms. The ancients were really wise.
Choose not between night and day. Together they complete the cycle of life.
On Feb 5, 2013 Thierry wrote:|
As we were once weeding a garden a friend asked me: just how sure can we be that that such and such 'bad' weeds are not somewhat useful to the cultivated plants? Weeds do participate to the synergy of the whole. Having to eliminate these evil looking weeds by any means, including through the use of chemicals, is still a credo with many farmers and gardeners. And similarly many of us are conditioned to suppress or repress their psychological equivalent. In the words of Joseph Campbell: 'Our religious conditioning invites us to take a stand between Good and Evil while the Indian's law invites him to put himself in accord with nature.... All the devil is, is a repressed Daemon' , by this meaning the Greek term for the dynamic unconscious, the dynamic of nature.
I can only say that the words of the old Cherokee now ring true to me as do those teachings which invite us to acknowledge those dynamic forces. Fears, be it the fear of loosing control, always motivate our compulsions to repress. When we are aware of this tendency and see how counterproductive it is to deny the facts, we regain inward freedom as well as effectiveness.
On Feb 5, 2013 Avantika wrote:|
This story is simply amazing. The wisdom here is what speaks of compassion. The ability to give love and care to every thing that the universe sends to you. When you ignore any one feeling or emotion, it tends to come back strong and forceful, and then it will cause imbalance in you. In my own experience I suppressed a lot of negative emotion and finally it turned into a black hole.
Recently I realized that I need to acknowledge every single thing that comes to me, how i react is something that I can decide. After all every emotion visits you to lead you to some action, they are like the tools that is used to shape you, and help you realize the wisdom.
Now when I see anger in me, I try to see why is here, and what is it telling me to do, and then it leads me to wisdom. Infact every negative thing is just craving for attention and love. Just open your heart and mind to the message. And you will see the Black and White wolf will become one.
On Feb 5, 2013 Claire wrote:|
Thank you for sharing this exended version of a story which has stayed with me for many years - it feels like it rings true...for how can we live love and compassion in the world without tenacity, courage and fearlessness? But I am curious, as peace is included as a quality of the white wolf, and maybe peace does not belong to either wolf, but can only be experienced when both wolves are fed... food for thought, in itself!
On Feb 5, 2013 David wrote:|
Avantika- I like your comment. I imagined the two wolves saying, "Do you not see that we are one? We cannot leave you or be left behind... when you honor us both you will see One Gray Wolf."
On Feb 5, 2013 Rekha Garg wrote:|
Beyond the Conflict of Inner Forces
--by Cherokee Story (Feb.6, 2013)
An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life:
“A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.”It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.”
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf will win?”
You might heard the story ends like this: The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”
In the Cherokee world, however, the story ends this way:
The old Cherokee simply replied, “If you feed them right, they both win.” and the story goes on:
“You see, if I only choose to feed the white wolf, the black one will be hiding around every corner waiting for me to become distracted or weak and jump to get the attention he craves. He will always be angry and always fighting the white wolf. But if I acknowledge him, he is happy and the white wolf is happy and we all win. For the black wolf has many qualities – tenacity, courage, fearlessness, strong-willed and great strategic thinking – that I have need of at times and that the white wolf lacks. But the white wolf has compassion, caring, strength and the ability to recognize what is in the best interest of all.
"You see, son, the white wolf needs the black wolf at his side. To feed only one would starve the other and they will become uncontrollable. To feed and care for both means they will serve you well and do nothing that is not a part of something greater, something good, something of life. Feed them both and there will be no more internal struggle for your attention. And when there is no battle inside, you can listen to the voices of deeper knowing that will guide you in choosing what is right in every circumstance. Peace, my son, is the Cherokee mission in life. A man or a woman who has peace inside has everything. A man or a woman who is pulled apart by the war inside him or her has nothing.
"How you choose to interact with the opposing forces within you will determine your life. Starve one or the other or guide them both.”
आंतरिक बलों के संघर्ष से परे
--चेरोकी कथा (6 फरवरी, 2013)
एक बूढ़ा चेरोकी अपने पोते को इस जीवन का पाठ पढ़ा रहा है:
"मेरे अंदर एक संघर्ष चल रहा है।" उसने बच्चे से कहा। "यह एक भयानक संघर्ष है और यह दो भेड़ियों के बीच हो रहा है। एक दुष्ट है - वह क्रोध, ईर्ष्या, दुख, पछतावा, लालच, अहंकार, आत्म-दया, अपराध, आक्रोश, हीनता, झूठ, झूठी शान, श्रेष्ठता, और अहंकार है।" उसने आगे कहा, "दूसरा भला है - वह सुख, शांति, प्रेम, आशा, शांति, विनम्रता, दया, परोपकार, सहानुभूति, उदारता, सच्चाई, करुणा, और विश्वास है। वही लड़ाई तुम्हारे अंदर चल रही है -और सब लोगों के अंदर भी।"
बच्चे ने इस बारे में कुछ पल सोचा और फिर अपने दादा से पूछा: "कौन सा भेड़िया जीतेगा?"
आपने इस कहानी का अंत कुछ इस प्रकार सुना होगा: बूढ़े चेरोकी ने सीधा-सा जवाब दिया, "जिस भेड़िये को तुम खाना डालोगे।"
लेकिन चेरोकी जगत में यह कथा कुछ इस प्रकार ख़त्म होती है:
बूढ़े चेरोकी ने सीधा-सा जवाब दिया, "अगर तुम उनको ठीक प्रकार से खिलाओ, तो वो दोनों ही जीत जाते हैं।" और कहानी आगे चलती है:
"देखो, अगर मैं सिर्फ सफ़ेद भेड़िये को ही खाना खिलाऊं, तो काला भेड़िया हर कोने में छिप कर मेरा ध्यान बटने या मेरे कमज़ोर होने का इंतजार करेगा और मौका पाते ही मेरा ध्यान खींचने के लिए मुझ पर कूद पड़ेगा। वह हमेशा नाराज़ रहेगा और हमेशा सफ़ेद भेड़िये के साथ लड़ता रहेगा। लेकिन अगर मैं उसे स्वीकार कर लूँ तो वह खुश हो जाता है, और सफ़ेद भेड़िया भी खुश है और हम सब जीत जाते हैं। क्योंकि उस काले भेड़िये में भी बहुत गुण हैं - दृढ़ता, साहस, निर्भयता, मजबूत इरादे, बड़ी रणनीतिक सोच - जिनकी मुझे कभी-कभी ज़रुरत पड़ सकती है और जिनका सफ़ेद भेड़िये में अभाव है। लेकिन सफ़ेद भेड़िये में दया, सेवा, शक्ति, और यह पहचानने की क्षमता है कि सब के सर्वोत्तम हित में क्या है।
"तो देखो बच्चे, सफ़ेद भेड़िये को काले भेड़िये का साथ ज़रूरी है। सिर्फ एक को खिलाने से दूसरा भूखा रह जाएगा और वो दोनों बेकाबू हो जाएँगे। दोनों को खिलाने और दोनों का ख्याल रखने का मतलब है कि वो दोनों ही तुम्हारी अच्छी तरह सेवा करेंगे और ऐसा कुछ नहीं करेंगे जो कि किसी बेहतर चीज़, किसी अच्छे काम या अच्छे जीवन का हिस्सा न हों। उन दोनों को खिलाओ और उन दोनों के बीच तुम्हारा ध्यान खींचने के लिए कोई आंतरिक संघर्ष नहीं रह जाएगा। और जब अंदर कोई संघर्ष नहीं है, तो तुम अपने मन की गहराई में छुपी आवाज़ों को सुन सकते हो जो कि हर परिस्थिति में सही क्या है यह चुनने में तुम्हारा मार्गदर्शन करेंगी। शांति, मेरे बच्चे, चेरोकी जीवन का लक्ष्य है। जिस आदमी या औरत के अंदर शांति है, उसके पास सब कुछ है। जो आदमी या औरत अपने अंदर हो रहे युद्ध के कारण दोनों तरफ खिंच रहा है, उसके पास कुछ भी नहीं है।
"तुम अपने अंदर के विरोधी तत्वों से कैसा व्यवहार रखोगे, उसी पर तुम्हारा जीवन निर्भर करता है। एक को भूखा रखो या दूसरे को, या दोनों का मार्गदर्शन करो। "
On Feb 5, 2013 Raven wrote:|
Honering our shadow side can be the best kind of reflection we can do to be free and spread our wings to soar.
On Feb 6, 2013 Willow wrote:|
I think that maybe when we assign values like 'good' or 'evil' to each force, we immediately start to preference one over the other and create internal imbalance. If we don't look on the black wolf as bad and the white wolf as good, but both having equal value if their characteristics are harnessed properly, then I think it makes sense to feed both. For example, when I feel really angry about something, but then out of guilt, suppress that anger and tell myself I'm bad or wrong to be feeling anger, it just festers away inside and gets worse. But if I honestly take my anger out into the light and look and it, usually I find there is a valid reason for the anger I am feeling. When I do something to address the reason I am feeling angry then naturally the anger goes away. In that sense, the 'bad' emotions can be seen as really useful messengers to us about dangers we might be ignoring, or as fierce guardians trying to protect us from harm. I never heard this Cherokee story before but find it has great wisdom.
On Feb 6, 2013 Jaquelyn P wrote:|
This poem is a beautiful expression of the necessity of dichotomy. How would we know what joy is without having known sorrow? How can we distinguish what is true without knowing what is not true (lies)? It's all relative. If all we experienced was so-called good, we would not know it as such because we would not have a point of reference to contrast what it would be like otherwise. Each are two sides of the same coin, without one side, it would be incomplete.
On Feb 6, 2013 V Anand wrote:|
Wonderful Story Sirjee!
Also that Good Wolf and Bad Wolf are manyatimes interchangeable in terms of their roles, qualities and manifestation.
Guess, that's what makes Life Worthwhile and lot more Interesting.....
On Feb 7, 2013 Dan kariuki wrote:|
I think tolerance is the word. Without tolerance, you can not have the tenacity to be able to have both natures live on the inside of you at the same time, each with distinct craving. We also need maturity in order to grow up
On Feb 7, 2013 a wrote:|
Matthew 13:24-30 The parable of the weeds among the wheat:
Jesus says, "The kingdom of heaven may be likened to a man who sowed good seed in his field . . . the enemy came and sowed weeds . . . the crop grew and bore fruit, the weeds appeared as well . . . His servants asked, 'Do you want us to pull up the weeds?' Jesus said, 'No, if you pull up the weeds you might uproot the wheat along with them. Let them grow together until the harvest. . . . at that time, harvesters will 'First, collect the weeds and tie them up for burning; but gather the wheat into my barn.'"
Wheat and weeds grow together "in the soil" that is each one of us. We don't want to "feed" the "bad stuff", but we naturally do because "we are soil".
God, in His wisdom, knows this! Though we would never feed a weed (or I can't say I know anyone that does) . . . they grow. Though I try to prevent the growth and spread of weeds, they still pop up. When all is said and done for us in life here on earth, God is going to take from us "our weeds" and He's going to LOVE the good stuff!
On Feb 23, 2013 Raghu wrote:|
One more misuse of a beautiful story of balance and self realization that has been subverted to justifying guilt and oppression of ones self comes to light! I am struck by how easily we buy into stories that will lead to the projecting of ones shadow on the other! i hope that this story gets reinstated the right way, and gets its due credits. Is this also one of the stories of the wisdom traditions that gets distorted and monetised and colonized by the 'chicken soup' stuff?
On Feb 23, 2013 Raghu wrote:|
One more beautiful story of self realization and balance comes to light! I am struck by how easily I had bought into the version that would subconsciously justify my self oppression and guilt. And once I had pushed the black wolf into the shadow, I could feel heroic by projecting it on to the other and blowing them to bits!! Is is one more of the stories that have been distorted, monetised and colonized in the 'chicken soup' books?
On Apr 8, 2014 Mish wrote:|
I love all parts of me.love, acceptance, forgiveness. I give all to me. And, in doing so, I have more to give to others.
On Apr 8, 2014 Leigh Anna Kennemore wrote:|
I have never thought about my inner self in that way and never realized that I needed to pay attention to both because of the qualities that each brings to my life. I appreciate the insight. Thank you.
On Apr 8, 2014 Catherine Cadden wrote:|
This is not of Cherokee origin. It has been passed around the internet a
lot. A lot of digging and research on this story has been done. The
earliest form of this story is found inÂ 1978 written by the Evangelical
Christian Minister Billy Graham in his book,The Holy Spirit: Activating
God Power in Your Life. Of all native peoples of the land now called USA,
the Cherokee kept impeccable records of many of their stories because they have the written word and this story is not in their collection.
I bring this forward because enemy-images are very damaging -even if they
are positive images. I have found that politically correct and "positive";
labels can keep just as much distance between people as "negative"; ones. I have found that Idle No More has encouraged me to speak more on matters - even something as small as this ...I call this small because I trust that your sharing of this story is trying to contribute to well-being, love, learning, compassion, and care. And at the same time I feel the importance to speak the clarity that idealizing Indians (the misnamed indigenous peoples of what is now called North and South America) as "wise old Indians" can be just a damaging as it keeps people from seeing us/them as we/they really human. It is to me for the true voices of people to be heard and understood. I walk with an ache in my heart daily about the invisibility of so many people - and it is very close to me what is happening here in the US. The US government still controls huge populations of people who have to live on reservations. Even in this day when so many people fight for equal rights and justice there is still a lack of seeing what happens on US reservations and how the tribes are still trying to survive. There is an entire population of people in the US that have to register with the government in order to be able to claim their heritage, their birthright. I am not talking about being considered a citizen of a country- being registered simply to have an identity as a human being.
Seeing the words "an old Cherokee teaching" stimulates much pain around clarity and authenticity for me. It is not typically "native" to include the "moral" of the story in the story nor is it typical to have "good" battle "evil". Also, black and white are not seen as "good" and "evil". Those ideas came to fruition after colonization and with slavery. Those ideas were then imposed on stories already within the cultures. Also, wolf is quite sacred to Cherokee people even thought most the wolves that lived among them before the Trail of Tears have been hunted to extinction. Wolf is one of the clans. The "positive"; and "negative"; enemy-imaging of wolves also has kept a separation that continues such misunderstanding that they last surviving in North America are now face extinction. I request all of us, myself included, that as we share our "rememberings" wewalk with a consciousness of really acknowledging where they come from and support freedom from all enemy-images, negative or positive, that keep people (and all beings) separate. I encourage people to seek out the true lineage of a story or quote they find, especially when it has a general attribution like "Chinese proverb", " Indian saying", "Cherokee";...etc...or simply share the story or quote with the transparency of not knowing its true origins and simply the needs you are connected to in sharing it.
On Apr 8, 2014 Leigh Anna Kennemore wrote:|
Thank you for sharing. I understand exactly what you're saying. I took the story to represent my own battles within between good and bad. It helped me to realize that trying to always do good and sometimes the bad comes out isn't failure on my part. I need to work on taking the good parts of both and use them to better my life. I love reading stories that have Native History. The stories are down to earth yet filled with great knowledge and meaning. When reading history books,the Bible, and even watching the news today it is heartbreaking that we as humans have not learned how to love each other and live together.
On Apr 8, 2014 shoshi morginn wrote:|
ahhhhh.....but we are learning to do just that...I heard that until all of us goes, none of us goes...I envision a world in which everyone is seen and valued for their capacities and awareness, that includes the underdog, the one the underdog struggles against, and the ones defending the underdog as well. We are learning so much with Reconciliation and Healing/Restorative Justice...learning to invite all community members to the table, asking who we have to become to treat the so-called "bullies" with the same genuine compassion and care that we treat the ones on the receiving end of misguided strategies. I like what I learn engaging in this level of dialogue.
On Apr 10, 2014 A friend wrote:|
For all the insights given 4/8, it is important to look every person we pass in the eye. To speak (non verbally), "You matter . . . I care . . . Do your best (perfection will make you ill) . . . Hold on to Jesus".
That no child of God fall in the crack of invisibility, I pray.
Looking at you,
On Apr 13, 2014 Celestial Elf wrote:|
Greetings, I thought you might like my animation of The Legend Of Two Wolves
On Apr 13, 2014 Mish wrote:|
Many thanks for sharing The Legend of Two Wolves. Excellent animation & message!
On Apr 13, 2014 Marlene wrote:|
That was a good analysis. MK
On May 10, 2014 Prudence wrote:|
i did this, paid the black wolf and the white wolf equal respect. the black wolf saw this as a weeknes. i think this is a nice idea, but dangerous. remeber the gingerbread man.
On May 10, 2014 Prudence wrote:|
i think this is an illusion - that we need pain to respect peace. we should see the world as a child does. small children have little experience of pain, but are full of joy.
On May 10, 2014 Mish wrote:|
Hmmmmm.....good point. :)
On May 10, 2014 I hear you! wrote:|
I guess I do not understand why you (or anyone) would want to "feed" darkness?
We ALL have it (a black wolf) but I try to keep the dark in me as light as I can. I do not want to go beyond "gray".
Let your LIGHT so shine.
ILY! very much
On May 10, 2014 I still hear you! wrote:|
Forgot to say, I am thankful you are still here to tell us your story . . . the gingerbread man was/is not so lucky!
(I count on you to be close by. I would sorrowfully miss you if you were gone!) TY!
On Jun 28, 2014 Tania wrote:|
I thing that is a good and right deel.
On Jul 11, 2014 Akshay Sadana, NJ wrote:|
Inner forces do not fight only for evil or anger, there are many other types of fight goes inside us.
Many times it is between right or wrong, favor to one and disfavor to other, between love and duty, between friend and family what to choose. All the life we have situations where by we are unable to decide what to do and what not to do.
Hundreds and thousands of times in our life we have situations where by we have to fight with our selves to find what to do and what not to do and what is right and what is wrong. Lot many times there is no evil in what we are unable to decide. It is only the justification what to do in a particular situation.
Many a times we have a problem in our mind to continue with the present job and between joining a new Job.
So we are in conflict of thoughts and that is the practical problem we face in situations where there is no one to guide us. So what we should do at that time?
Many a times i have been in that situation with no answer.
At last I found a solution, which has never been wrong and I never had to regret.
That's what i am going to suggest all the readers. (The answer to this problem was given to me by my father whom i trusted well.)
If you are ever in such a situation just write the problem in few words or few lines. Keep it there for the night and in the morning take that paper as a letter form your son who is seeking an advice from you.
So now what you would suggest to your son in that situation?
What you would suggest to your son do the same and you would never be wrong.
I can swear, it has never proved to be wrong, in my life. I assure you if you do the same you will never regret for your decision in your life.
On Aug 25, 2014 invisible child wrote:|
Thank you. These are the words I needed in order to understand.
On Aug 25, 2014 Peace and Lfm wrote:|
Please forgive me if I do not do what you'd like me to . . . I am a bit over whelmed. So much to process.
On Sep 19, 2014 Jenna Berrie wrote:|
Perhaps, rather than labelling them 'good' and 'evil' (which also has unpleasant christian nuances or hellfire etc), we could think of our selves as being a mix of love and fear. It is our fear which drives us to fight, to resent, to protect our 'fragile' selves against real or imagined threats. Our fear prompts us to draw back from others, to view them with suspicion, alert for danger. It is our love which prompts us to compassion, to empathy, to kindness, to move out into the world of others with confidence in our strength and abilities. We need our fear - we've survived as a species because of it - but we need not live in it.
On Sep 19, 2014 Mish wrote:|
On Sep 20, 2014 Jenna Berrie wrote:|
Thank you :)
On Sep 20, 2014 Amy wrote:|
Love . . . Love . . . Love, Jenna! Most often our "labeling" (for good or for bad) is not entirely accurate. Assume nothing. Ty,
On Sep 20, 2014 marlene wrote:|
I did not find anything inspiring or informative.
On Sep 21, 2014 Jenna Berrie wrote:|
Yes! We just don't know what's 'good' or 'bad' - but we judge everything, anyway. It's hard-wired into our biology. Even single celled creatures will approach (good), avoid (bad) things in their environment - our subconscious brain makes the same kind of judgements about everything we come across before our consciousness even knows there's anything there. Ah well, we can get around that automatic judgement if we're patient enough.
On Sep 21, 2014 aj wrote:|
So true Jenna! Sometimes, in effort to not let a judgment "carry on" (as it will), I have to mindfully turn my brain off! It works best to allow God to be the judge (since He knows the WHOLE story)!
On Sep 22, 2014 Jenna Berrie wrote:|
Using mindfulness to damp down an emotional response / judgement is a great tactic! Emotions can hijack us so quickly if we don't monitor our thinking.
On Sep 23, 2014 david doane wrote:|
Thinking can hijack us very quickly also -- as you said, it's important to monitor our thinking, and very closely. I'm always suspicious of my thinking.
On Nov 15, 2014 Maria wrote:|
I really thought that this story was very interesting, I enjoy Indian sayings and proverbs from Rolling Thunder,Lloyd Carl Owle (Cherokee) and Crowfoot (Blackfoot) and some from unknown authors. But the story puts to my mind how we all have good and bad in all of us, none of us are without sin. GOD gave us free will, HE created us in HIS own Image not the other way around. Satan likes to twist the truth ever so slightly just enough to confuse us, because that is what he is the master of confusion. I've heard people say making reference to the scriptures we have created GOD in our own image, Shame on you! That's idolatry in my book. When we continue to feed the darker side of ourselves doing wrong when we know what is right. I think many people have heard that old saying, "The devil made me do it." Whose voice do you follow more?
On Dec 1, 2014 Killer of Haters wrote:|
then f u
On Dec 12, 2014 Maria wrote:|
This does seem to make sense to some degree,if you are a loving parent and do not wish to see your children get hurt by bad choices. My mother always would say I wish you could learn from my mistakes. My reply was I wish I could too, but how then will I ever learn without making my own mistakes. As a mother myself it was very hard letting go of my daughters hand and let her stand on her own because I knew at some point she would fall but she would also pull herself back up when she got tired of sitting in the same spot again. I feel that maybe GOD may have felt the same way in the beginning wanting to let go of our hand and gave us our free will to choose and it will be again as it was in the beginning but this time will be different in a sense, GOD still wants us to choose HIM.
On Dec 12, 2014 MARLENE wrote:|
GOOD FOR PARENTS RAISING CHILDREN. MINE ARE GROWN!! DO YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE FOR WOMEN IN THEIR RETIREMENT DAYS? MARLENE
On Dec 12, 2014 MARYLIN wrote:|
NOT INTERESTED!!!!!!! I'VE RAISED MY CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Dec 12, 2014 Maria wrote:|
I am sorry if I offended you by what I wrote. I have raised my family too. I was only blessed with one but she is grown and married and I have two grandsons and a granddaughter that I'll see again someday. I guess GOD needed her more then we did.
On Dec 12, 2014 david doane wrote:|
What I call good and evil are all me. Qualities in me that I like, I call good, and qualities that I don't like, I call evil, and all qualities are me. The qualities are different but they are not separate from me, and in proclaiming some of them separate and evil I split myself and make some of me my enemy to deny or repress or destroy. I become a house divided. The challenge is to feed both, accept and incorporate all of me, and become whole. I can learn to use all of me and have all of me be of service to me rather than aspects of me that I don't like taking control of me. All that is easier said than done, but I have a lifetime to work on it. Being mindful is a way of seeing that what I call good and what I call evil are me, which helps me be free to get to know and utilize all of me. As for a personal story, what comes to mind is that I've come to know that I don't have to or need to be angry, and the energy that used to become anger is more often firmness or assertiveness or compassion.
On Dec 12, 2014 MARLENE wrote:|
I WASN'T OFFENDED, I JUST WISH PEOPLE WOULD REALIZE THAT WE ARE STILL ALIVE AND WOULD LIKE JUST AS MUCH COMMUNICATION AS THE YOUNGER BUNCH!!! MARLENE
On Dec 12, 2014 david doane wrote:|
Marlene -- My advice for you and me is to further raise ourselves.
On Dec 13, 2014 Maria wrote:|
Thank you for your post. I know I don't do a very good job some times of explaining things or expressing myself and at times it may seem like I'm trying to tell people how to live but I try not to offer advice.I usually tell people just to be in prayer about things they need answers for.
On Dec 13, 2014 Jo wrote:|
I do not wish for God to let go of my hand (ideally, He can hold my other hand, head and heart, too!)
On Dec 13, 2014 marlene wrote:|
On Dec 13, 2014 Maria wrote:|
Thanks for the Amen Jo, GOD won't ever let go of your hand so long as you don't let go of HIS! We are all on a journey, a journey of life and I guess that doesn't stop until we stop living. I wish I could remember who told me that.
On Dec 13, 2014 Blessings wrote:|
I am thankful for YOU and this site!
On Dec 14, 2014 Maria wrote:|
I thank GOD for YOU too, many BLESSINGS back to YOU. Always remember where your TRUE BLESSINGS come from and give thanks no matter how great or small.
On Jan 6, 2015 evaaddison wrote:|
On May 17, 2015 Gwyn wrote:|
My part in a relationship seems to suffer due to my lack of self worth this a negativity that i have always struggled with regards all aspects of my life. Not a balanced view of one self. I don't want to let anybody down but my approach seems to do just that. The balanced aproach that you refer to of the 2 wolves how can that be practiced?
On Apr 10, 2016 Yogi One wrote:|
OMG what a twist! you added to the otherwise grand story. So the Black wolf is now courageous and foregoing and brave? No in this story, the essence is to go for good even when that is the road less travel or the aparently harder route to take. No short cuts!
The way the story goes, its bad vs god, evil vs virtue, the black one is corrupted will never be good, there is no Yin and Yang, its pure duality, but the bad will never die - even if you try to kill it. Don't get confused adding niceness to the black one, it has none, its deceiving, it will tell you differently do, it will always cone you into its ways if you let it - That what evil does, and no one needs evil!
On Aug 10, 2016 Akshay Sadana wrote:|
Conflict is only when you think that you are right.
You have to understand that other person too may be right.
You can not always be right. Try to understand the point of view of other person particularly your children.
On Aug 10, 2016 Akshay Sadana wrote:|
On this blog we expect mature comments.
From your comment it seems you too are facing conflict of other forces. You can get rid of your problem by meditation.
On Aug 10, 2016 Akshay Sadana wrote:|
No one can make you do any thing unless you yourself want to do it.
If you keep aside your personal gains or ego nothing wrong ever happens and you do not do any thing wrong.
On Nov 2, 2016 Angela C. Montano wrote:|
I love this story and have shared it many times myself but the version I have is not this one. This one is better. What a powerful teaching. To honor both the light and the dark of our own nature.
On Nov 2, 2016 Judy wrote:|
Thank you, Audrey for that great story. I had not heard that ending before. I facilitate a grief group on Wednesdays. It is a safe place for people to feed that dark wolf. Sometimes we feel that we are not allowed to feel those sad feelings, that we are considered weak and at a disadvantage. What we acknowledge in the grief group is that the only way to allow feelings to pass is to feel them. We do some crying and some laughing in equal measure in the group. Beneath it all is great love, for without love, there would be no grief.
On Nov 15, 2016 Datboi wrote:|
On Nov 15, 2016 Dave wrote:|
You say you lead a grief group. In dealing with what I think was he greatest grief of all, the loss of our 6 yr old son (fist born and my spiting image) a good friend told us that life after a death is like a hand saw with jagged teeth. As you go up the saw blade, there will be ups and downs but you continue on. Another friend who had lost a child told us not to listen to those who say 'take it day by day, one day at a time' because they have never lost someone close. You take it minute by minute because a day is to huge to deal with. One minute laugh, the next cry, the next anger, the next quiet. Too many emotions and they are all raw during the first few years. Let your group know they can go on, just to do it slowly and to always remember the things that made their loved one smile and laugh.
On Sep 26, 2017 meah wrote:|
the black wolf is a wounderful thing
On Feb 13, 2018 Akshay Sadana wrote:|
Conflict is only when you think you are right.
There is nothing like Right or Wrong.
When you say it is day you think it is right it my be other person will be saying it is night as he is across the Globe,
So never think you are absolutely right, you may be wrong.
So if you come out of the feeling of right or wrong, good or bad you will save your self from inner conflict..
It is only he particular moment that makes thing right or wrong ,good or bad.
Wait for time and you will be out of the inner conflict.
On Mar 22, 2018 Neveah wrote:|
Evil, good, polarity of the two, duality. It's all a Western Civilization construct, in which everything is separated. God is separated from man. Nature is separated and something to be conquered by man. It is very limited thinking. Native American culture is far more integrative and expansive. Both wolves belong to each of us. What will destroy us is our fear and inability to accept all parts of ourselves.
On Apr 9, 2018 Wolfgang wrote:|
this story hasn't been "added to" - it IS the "grand story!" - the story you refer to, incorrectly, as the grand story is simply new age wishful thinking; a Christian corruption, that denies Nature to be part of "God".
On Sep 14, 2018 Jason wrote:|
The original sorry is well explained however it will cause mixed messages . The true meaning of this story is light vs darkness . Feed darkness and you will cause harm to yourself and others and ultimately fail. What is horribly wrong with the original story are the placements of the qualities . Light vectors all success and doesn’t allow room for negativity . The black wolf is an avatar of negativity and the white wolf is an avatar or positive thinking . As humans the negative experiences we live , by default overrule positive. This is because we feed the black wolf. The strength required to succeed on all playing fields is the white wolf. I will give you a concrete example. I went from fat and broke to fit and rich. Not once did I feed the black wolf . Only the white. It was a long and depleting fight because that black wolf came many times but the white wolf fought it off the majority of the time . The white wolf day after day became stronger till one the day the immortal black wolf realized that his efforts were futile. It takes time to change but it’s doable. Feeding the black wolf is easy, but if you do what is easy your life will be hard and if you what is hard ( feed a gentle wolf while a black wolf is intimidating ) your life will be easy... if there is non enemy within , the enemies outside can do us no harm .
Feed the white wolf
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