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Does Life Have A Purpose?

--by J. Krishnamurti (Jan 22, 2018)


Why do you maintain that Life has no purpose? If Life has no purpose, the individual life, even in pure being, can have no purpose either; because individual perfection can have a meaning only when there is a purpose in creation.


Life by which I mean, that life which is truth, in which there is no division, in which all things consummate, on which all things depend, in which all things exist that life has no purpose, because it is.

For that which is, there cannot be a purpose, because it is all inclusive. In that exist both time and space, and individual existence; but individual existence, in which totality is not yet realized, has a purpose. That purpose is the realization of this totality.

Individuality is not an end in itself because individuality is imperfection. It is burdened with incompleteness; and so the magnification of that individuality, to however great a degree, will still remain individuality. That which is imperfect cannot by magnification or multiplication be made perfect.

So the true purpose of individual existence is to realize this unity of things, this reality, in which there is no sense of object and subject, “you” and “I”, in which there are no reactions, but only the sense of pure being which is positive, dynamic. (When I use the word “positive”, I do not exclude the negative). This life is in all things in this table, as in the most highly cultured (hu)man.

But the individual in whom there is separation, in whom there is distinction of object and subject, in whom there is division, because of his limitation, his imperfection, must fulfill himself in perfection, in incorruptibility.

Therefore individual existence has a purpose, but life has no purpose.

by J. Krishnamurti, from a gathering at Oomen, Holland, 1930

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My individual existence has a purpose that is to create unity or harmony within my different voices within me and with another individual' existence. It s like being in a concert with different players and instruments creating concord and harmony. Or it is like a rainbow with seven different colors and merging into each other creating unity or oneness.

I know from my  own experience that this is the truth that creates positive energy, joy, excitement and peace. Realizing this truth is an ongoing  challenging journey for me and I am happy to work on it. patiently. Yesterday, I had an exiting and delightful conversation with my friend talking about what is true education and what is the essence of human nature. When we talk about my premise on basic human nature  quite  different from his premise on human nature, dark clouds of friction started  building up up. We are good friends and have great long standing relationship. Both of us took deep breaths to create a space  to  mindfully respond and not to react. This helped us to be open to each other and relate to each other compassionately. Such experiences have been very helpful to me in building bridges to help us remain connected with each other. Such a way of working on individuality opens the door to experiencing oneness. I know this is an ongoing journey. I have patience and determination to walk on this way.

May we remain open minded and open hearted to flourish the richness of our individual existence and live harmoniously.
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 I love the response that JK gave. Life has no purpose. Because it is. It has no beginning and no ending and it including you, me and everything that we love and hate. What it means to me is that when I am full of life, when I am just being in the moment, when I am fully present, there is no purpose, no time or no goal. Only life is present and there is no I or individual consciousness. When I am thinking, planning and mourning, then I have a purpose to make myself whole by doing, feeling and embracing the polarity that I am running away from.
Think about it, just like life has no purpose, death has no purpose either. But we try to find meaning and give meaning to death.
My father passed away last year. His life is fulfilled and death took him away. By mourning, by being upset that he died only makes me unable to participate in life. I am not engaged with life everytime I live in the memories of my father or when I am upset.
When I serve others, when I celebrate other's success as my own, when I laugh and share with others, then I dont need any purpose to my life. Life is service and life is presence and life is joy. They just are.

Thank you for the beautiful passage!
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